Biesse Artech Akron 245 nakup rabljenega (326)

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2009, Numerical control Sintra Panel height 60 mm Solid wood mm 20 PVC / ABS mm 3 Feed speed up to 25 meters/min Working height electronically adjustable via CNC Powered pressure belt with increased pressure Motorized, electronically adjustable panel carrier guide via CNC Panel feeding table for easy alignment of the input panels Side roller conveyor with running wheels for panel support Rectifier unit Coil holder magazine with 2 positions and automatic edge change via CNC Gluing unit for EVA hot-melt adhesive with pre-melter and glue pot Preparation for PUR adhesive gluing unit Edge pressure unit for straight profiles with electronically adjustable pressure rollers via CNC End trimming unit with 2 motors and automatic tilt adjustment Kdodpfx Aheh Uhxne Dsu Trimming unit with 2 vertically arranged motors Corner rounding unit with 2 tilting motors Multifunctional 4-motor corner rounding unit (profile shaper + rounder) with CNC control, automatic Anti-adhesive unit Adjustable edge scraper unit Glue scraper unit Oscillating brush unit

Stanje: rabljeno, Funkcionalnost: nepreverjeno, Koda Ferwood: AGG0062 - Koda proizvajalca: 6314A0111 - Stanje: Rabljeno - Funkcionalnost: Ni testirano - Združljiv stroj: CNC BIESSE ROVER 23/24/27/30/346 - Če ste zainteresirani, nudimo storitev obnove, kontaktirajte nas. Teža in dimenzije za prevoz: 2,5 kg 20x20x20 cm Ksdpfx Ahovu Auus Dsdu

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2017, BIESSE UNILINE 4.500 CNC Fensterrahmen- und Türenfertigungsmaschine Beschreibung 19,2 kW (25,7 PS) Elektrospindel mit HSK F63 Aufnahme und Flüssigkeitskühlung, mit C-Achse und Späneschutz 8 Paneelauflagen mit automatischer Positionierung in X-Richtung (EPS) ausgestattet mit Finger-Spannzangen Kettenmagazin mit 22 Werkzeugplätzen, 180 mm Mittenabstand Bandförderer zur Späne- und Reststückentsorgung Automatisches Schmiersystem NC-Werkstückmanipulator mit 3 Spannzangen für automatische Be- und Entladevorgänge 2-Stufen-Transfer, 16 Werkstücke à 85 mm Breite, max. Länge 3.200 mm EC-Sicherheitskabine Klimaanlage für Schaltschrank Maximale Werkstückgröße für automatisches Be- und Entladen: L=3.200 mm, H=140 mm, B=200 mm Minimale automatisch beladbare Paneelgröße: L=300 mm, H=40 mm, B=40 mm Maximale Werkstückgröße für manuelles Be- und Entladen: L=4.500 mm, H=140 mm, B=200 mm. Vollständige Beschreibung auf Anfrage (Trotz größter Sorgfalt sind alle Änderungen, Fehler in technischen Daten, Preisen und Informationen vorbehalten (Schreibfehler möglich). Keine Garantie auf gedruckte Angaben! Verfügbarkeit vorbehaltlich Zwischenverkauf). Kjdpfx Ahsw Ew Iio Dodu Preise zzgl. Inserierungskosten Machineseeker / Preise exkl. Inserierungskosten MaschinenSucher Die besten Holzbearbeitungsmaschinen aus den Niederlanden The best woodworking machines from the Netherlands De beste gebruikte machines uit Nederland

Stanje: zelo dobro (rabljeno), PC control type NC 400 Deluxe No. 2 motorized throughfeed conveyor belts No. 2 horizontal drilling supports No. 1 drilling unit for each horizontal drilling support Spindles per horizontal drilling unit (qty.) 20 Max. working width (mm) 3200 Min. working width (mm) 205 (approx.) No. 5 lower vertical drilling supports No. 2 drilling units for each lower vertical drilling support No. 3 upper vertical workpiece clamps No. 2 chip removal conveyor belts Total connected load (kW) Ksdpform Ik Tsx Ah Dodu The CNC control manages the movement (X-axis) of the horizontal drilling supports. The CNC control manages the movement (Y-axis) of the stops. The CNC manages the movement (X-axis) of the transport belts.

Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2018, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, številka stroja/vozila: 1000028154, Oprema: vrtilna hitrost brezstopenjsko nastavljiva, Stroj je bil zagnan leta 2019, en lastnik. Uporabljan je bil zelo malo časa. Opis Uporabno delovno območje, konfiguracija 5 osi: X=3280mm, Y=1600mm Hodi osi: X=3706mm, Y=2294mm, Z1=515mm, Z2=371mm Hitrost pomika osi: X=80 m/min, Y=60 m/min, Z=30 m/min Kjdpfsxdl H Uox Ah Djdu Elektrovreteno: HSD 5-osna 11 kW z neprekinjenim vrtenjem za 360° na oseh B in C, omogoča zelo natančno obdelavo kompleksnih oblik hlajeno s tekočino Vrtalna glava: HSD 20 navpičnih vreten 4 vodoravna rezalni diski na osi X rezalni diski na osi Y Delovna miza: 6 prečk Isbjwhypnjni Itxtobb 4 priseski na vsaki prečki priprava za uniclamp Zaloge orodij: revolverski zalogovnik s 16 pozicijami Vakuumski sistem: Vakuumska črpalka s kapaciteto 250 m³/h, ki zagotavlja trdno pritrditev obdelovancev med obdelovanjem.

Stanje: pripravljen za uporabo (rabljen), Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, številka stroja/vozila: 04946, dolžina rezanja (maks.): 4.350 mm, premer žaginega lista: 400 mm, največja širina rezanja: 4.455 mm, izvrtina žagine plošče: 80 mm, TEHNIČNI PODATKI Maks. dolžina reza: 4.350 mm Maks. širina reza: 4.455 mm Maks. višina reza: 110 mm Premer izvrtine žaginega lista: 80 mm Maks. premer žaginega lista: 400 mm Predrezilo: Da Maks. hitrost podajanja: 25 m/min PODROBNOSTI O STROJU Dimenzije Dimenzije (D x Š x V): 7.600 x 1.400 x 1.800 mm Kdedpexcn Tuofx Ah Dou Transportni paketi: 5

Stanje: rabljeno, Numerical control XP 600 with Biesse Works software Working area in X-axis: 3000 mm Working area in Y-axis: 1000 mm Working area in Z-axis: 60 mm Automatic loading system with motorized belt transfer No. 2 clamps for securing and transporting panels No. 1+1 vertical electrospindle, 3 axes (top + bottom) No. 1+1 independent saw blade (top + bottom) Ksdpfxopp Thnj Ah Dsdu No. 29+29 independent spindles for vertical drilling in 'X and Y' direction (top + bottom) No. 10+10 independent spindles for horizontal drilling in 'X and Y' direction (top + bottom) Automatic unloading system with motorized belt transfer

Stanje: rabljeno, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, Koda Ferwood: AGG0056 - Stanje: Rabljeno - Funkcionalnost: Popolnoma delujoče - Kompatibilen stroj: CNC BIESSE ROVER - Če ste zainteresirani, nudimo storitev pregleda, kontaktirajte nas. Teža in dimenzije za transport: 4 kg, 36x26x21 cm. Ksdjvu Aqijpfx Ah Dedu

Leto izdelave: 2009, Stanje: pripravljen za uporabo (rabljen), Hauptantrieb Spindeldrehzahlbereich: 6.000–18.000 U/min Anzahl der Achsen: 3 Zusätzliche Ausstattung - Rollenzuführtisch - Oberer Andrucktisch - Unterer Andrucktisch - Obere und untere Bearbeitungseinheiten - Gurtband-Auslauftisch (rechte Seite) - Elektronische Dickenverstellung - Zentrale, automatische Schmierung - CNC-Steuerung: XP 600 mit Soft CN Kjdpfxow Uakds Ah Dedu - Sicherheitssystem Dieses 3-Achs-Bearbeitungszentrum BIESSE SKIPPER 100 wurde im Jahr 2009 gefertigt. Es ist ideal für vielseitige CNC-Bearbeitungen und überzeugt durch robuste Bauweise und Präzision. Nutzen Sie die Chance, dieses BIESSE SKIPPER 100 CNC-Bearbeitungszentrum zu erwerben. Kontaktieren Sie uns für weitere Informationen. Einsatzgebiete CNC-Holzbearbeitung

Stanje: rabljeno, številka stroja/vozila: 008190, Maks. širina panela: 4400 mm Maks. dolžina panela: 4300 mm Maks. izstop glavnega žaginega lista: 75 mm Kedpfsxbzqdjx Ah Dsdu

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2014, Biesse Rover B G 2231 FT, komplett mit Be- und Entladesystem Kdedpfx Ahjw Hf A Rj Dsu Beschreibung: Arbeitsbereich X in Y: 3100 x 2205 mm Flachbett-Tisch Anzahl Achsen Fräsmotor: 3 Kein Bohraggregat Werkzeugaufnahme: HSK 63 Wechsler: Feststehend, 21 Plätze Vakuumpumpen: 2 x 300 m³ Absperrungen Office-Softwarelizenz Ein- und Auslauftisch (Beladung mittels Vakuumheber) Abkehrarm Einlaufanschlag B-Solid Presetter Detaillierte Beschreibung auf Anfrage (Trotz größter Sorgfalt sind alle Änderungen, Irrtümer in den technischen Daten, Preisen und allen Angaben vorbehalten. Keine Garantie auf gedruckte Daten! Verfügbarkeit vorbehaltlich Zwischenverkauf). Preise zzgl. Inserierungskosten Machineseeker Best woodworking machines from the Netherlands Holland Die besten Holzbearbeitungsmaschinen aus den Niederlanden De beste gebruikte machines uit Nederland

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1999, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, potovalna razdalja osi X: 2.900 mm, pomik osi Y: 1.300 mm, pomik po osi Z: 140 mm, hitrost pomika os X: 75 m/min, hitrost podajanja osi Y: 75 m/min, hitrost podajanja os Z: 15 m/min, proizvajalec krmilnikov: XNC, hitrost vretena (min.): 1.000 obr/min, največja hitrost vretena: 24.000 obr/min, moč vretenovega motorja: 11.000 W, število vreten: 1, število mest v zalogovniku orodij: 7, Oprema: CE označba, dokumentacija / priročnik, transportni trak za ostružke, vrtilna hitrost brezstopenjsko nastavljiva, Biesse Rover 23 lesno-obdelovalna postaja – popolnoma opremljena Stroj je še vedno v uporabi, 1 do 2 dni na teden, zaradi prenehanja dejavnosti na Slovaškem pa je naprodaj. Vedno dobro vzdrževan. ✅ Visoka zmogljivost Rezkalno vreteno s keramičnimi ležaji (11 kW) Nastavljiva hitrost: 1.000 – 24.000 obr/min Vrtalna glava z 10 navpičnimi in 6 vodoravnimi svedri Krožna žaga na osi X ✅ Učinkovitost & prilagodljivost Pnevmatsko nastavljivi vakuumski kalibri v 6 vrstah, 3 na vrsto Kdjdpfx Aew S Edwjh Dou Vakuumska črpalka 100 m³ Shranjevalnik orodja s 7 mesti (ISO 30) Vključuje vse adapterje in orodja ✅ Uporabniku prijazno Transportni trak za avtomatski odvod odrezkov Takoj pripravljen za uporabo, popolnoma opremljen 📍 Stroj se nahaja na Slovaškem, razstavljanje in prevzem na kraju samem je treba opraviti samostojno.

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2017, Numerical control with B-Solid software Working area X-axis: 3600 mm Working area Y-axis: 1800 mm Number of working fields: 2 Stackable worktable Automatic loading system with side lifting table Label printing system with automatic application on the loading table Panel separation system with suction cups 1 three-axis vertical electrospindle, 13.2 kW, with automatic tool changer, ISO 30 taper Automatic tool changer with 16 positions – located at the rear of the machine Automatic tool changer with 8 positions – on the machine Drilling unit BH 10 with 10 spindles arranged as follows: - 15 vertical spindles on the X-axis - 17 vertical spindles on the Y-axis Automatic unloading system with motorized conveyor belt Workpiece cleaning system Protective and safety system with perimeter fences Kjdpfx Aoqvt D Rsh Dsdu Safety system with bumper Automatic lubrication system Air conditioning unit for cooling and cleaning the machine control cabinet 250 m3/h vacuum pumps

Stanje: rabljeno, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, Koda Ferwood: AGG0049 - Koda proizvajalca: 6314A0354 - Stanje: Rabljeno - Funkcionalnost: Popolnoma delujoče - Združljiv stroj: CNC BIESSE ROVER - V primeru interesa nudimo storitev pregleda, kontaktirajte nas. Teža in dimenzije za transport: 9 kg, 46x39x27 cm. Kdjdpfx Asvu Amweh Dju

Leto izdelave: 2003, Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Automatic drilling and dowel inserting line with automatic panel loading and unloading, approximately 29 meters in length, composed of: Essedue Loader Biesse FTT CNC transverse drilling machine, year 2003, equipped with: - 4 upper drilling heads with automatic vertical bit change - 2 X axes - 4 Y axes - 4 electrospindles with automatic tool change - 12 total tool change slots In-line transverse panel flipper for double-sided drilling Biesse FTT CNC transverse drilling machine, year 2004: - 2 upper drilling heads with automatic vertical bit change Kedpfx Ajh Tkt Roh Djdu - 1 X axis - 2 Y axes Biesse FHT transverse drilling and dowel inserting machine, year 2004 High-pressure glue system - 5 + 5 injectors Large vibrating baskets for dowels Essedue unloader with additional transverse outlet for single panels Fully electronic line with computerized control, well maintained and still operational, requiring only regular maintenance and overhaul of glue injectors, which are currently dismantled as shown in the photos. Dismantling, loading, and transport are entirely the responsibility of the buyer. For further details, please contact us only if seriously interested: no time wasters. Video available showing machine in operation.

Stanje: rabljeno, številka stroja/vozila: 005973, Tip nameščenega roba: tanek rob, močan rob Leplilni sistem: EVA Robilni lepilni stroj: stroj 1 Kdodpfxeiiipie Ah Dsu Delovni agregati, desna stran: 9 kosov Delovni agregati, leva stran: 9 kosov

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2018, Numerical control BH 660 with BIESSE BSolid software bEdge module for edge management bSolid surface design Sophia – IoT connectivity Office monitoring Working range on X-axis: 3228 mm Working range on Y-axis: 1580 mm Working range on Z-axis: 200 mm with suction cups H74 mm Working range on Z-axis: 245 mm with suction cups H29 mm No. 8 adjustable ATS panel support bars Pneumatic clamping system installed, divided into two Y-zones No. 6 pneumatic Bakelite bars for panel lifting No. 3 adjustable suction cups for the bar Suction cup setup assistant No. 1 electrospindle (pantograph) with 4 axes, automatic tool changer, 13 kW motor (17.4 HP), liquid-cooled, HSK cone interface, 20,000 rpm Automatic 16-position tool changer on X-axis carriage Independent Tesa BH17 drilling spindles arranged as follows: No. 5 independent spindles for vertical drilling in “X” direction No. 5 independent spindles for vertical drilling in “Y” direction No. 4 spindles for horizontal drilling in “X” direction No. 2 spindles for horizontal drilling in “Y” direction No. 1 blade integrated in drilling head, 120 mm diameter (usable cut 25 mm) GU60L gluing unit for EVA adhesive with pre-melter – edge pressing system with double rubber-coated roller for webs Maximum inner diameter 30 mm and sensor for edge joint detection – 500 ml glue pot mounted on glue roller – edge preheating lamp – edge feed system – edge trimming system – manual edge insertion capability Plastic edge thickness from 0.4 to 3 mm Wood edge thickness from 0.4 to 2 mm Laminate edge thickness from 0.4 to 1.2 mm Maximum edge width 65 mm Workpiece thickness from 10 to 60 mm Minimum processable internal radius with edge processing: 30 mm Maximum external radius for edging, proportional to edge thickness and rigidity: * 10 mm with edge thickness up to 1 mm * 20 mm with 2 mm edge thickness * 30 mm with 3 mm edge thickness Kedpfx Ahjugpwnj Djdu Minimum dimensions of the edged panel: 300 x 300 mm Minimum inner diameter for edges: 350 mm with plastic edges less than 1 mm thick and panel max. thickness 18 mm Double-position edge magazine in protective housing for edges up to max. 65 mm thickness Finishing agent cleaning station with automatic distribution of special cleaning fluids and cleaning cycle No. 1 rounding/chamfering unit for edges No. 1 EF60A combination trimming/scraping unit Perimeter safety fence Chip extraction system with motorised belt Liquid cooling system Automatic lubrication system No. 1 vacuum pump with 250 m³/h capacity TECHNICAL DATA TO BE CONFIRMED

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2000, 2nd-line turning device from crosswise to lengthwise flatbed control PLC Kedpfsvlgutjx Ah Dodu

Stanje: rabljeno, številka stroja/vozila: 005836, Delovno območje os X: 3000 mm Delovno območje os Y: 1000 mm Kedpfxewuckuo Ah Dodu Moč glavnega vretena: 3,5 kW Število krmiljenih osi: 3 osi Število vrtalnih vretenc: 82

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2023, Numerical control BH 660 with BSolid Working range on the X-axis: 4320 mm Kjdpfowgc D Eex Ah Djdu Working range on the Y-axis: 1660 mm Working range on the Z-axis: 200 mm No. 2 working zones on the X-axis Bar working table No. 8 adjustable bars for suction cup holders No. 8 pneumatic Bakelite bars for lifting the panel 3 adjustable suction cups per bar with vacuum seal to secure the panel during processing No. 1 5-axis vertical electrospindle with automatic tool change, liquid cooling, HSK63 type taper, 13 kW (17.4 HP) Automatic tool change system with 16 positions, carousel type, along the X-axis at the rear of the machine Automatic tool magazine with 12 places on the side of the machine Drilling head BH24 L with the following spindle configuration: - No. 8 vertical spindles on the X-axis - No. 6 vertical spindles on the Y-axis - No. 6 horizontal spindles on the X-axis - No. 4 horizontal spindles on the Y-axis - No. 1 integrated saw blade for grooving Chip removal system with motorized conveyor belt Front carpet protection and safety system Automatic lubrication system Air conditioning for cooling and cleaning the machine control unit 250 m³/h vacuum pump TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS TO BE VERIFIED

Stanje: rabljeno, številka stroja/vozila: 007357, Pozicija 1: Nakladalec BIESSE - RBO-STREAM SB2 9.5 Pozicija 2: Dvostranski robni lepilni stroj BIESSE - RBO-STREAM SB2 9.5 Ksdpfx Aewuz Rtjh Dedu Pozicija 3: Obratnik plošč BIESSE - RBO-STREAM SB2 9.5 Pozicija 4: Dvostranski robni lepilni stroj BIESSE - RBO-STREAM SB2 9.5 Pozicija 5: Obratnik plošč BIESSE - RBO-STREAM SB2 9.5 Pozicija 6: Razkladalec BIESSE - RBO-STREAM SB2 9.5

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2017, Osi Plus numerical control, QUICK OPTI software for pattern cutting optimization directly at the machine, OPTIPLANNING pattern optimization software PROFESSIONAL version, barcode label printer - OS-Labelling, electrical cabinet air conditioning, cutting length 4400 mm, cutting width 4300 mm, blade extension 75 mm, manual front panel loading, integrated lateral aligner in blade carriage, no. 1 fixed front Bakelite table with air cushion system for unloading panels (2050 x 850 mm), no. 3 adjustable front Bakelite tables with air cushion system for unloading panels (2050 x 650 mm), main saw blade assembly (max. blade diameter / power) 355 mm / 7.5 kW, scoring saw unit (max. blade diameter / power) 200 mm / 2.2 kW, adjustable carriage speed, pusher carriage with 10 clamps, saw carriage speed 1-120 m/min, pusher speed 60 m/min, Twin Pusher 1.2 system with 1 additional gripper on pusher carriage (position 570 mm) for simultaneously executing different patterns, TECHNICAL DETAILS TO BE VERIFIED Ksdpfxov Amx Ts Ah Dsdu

Stanje: rabljeno, številka stroja/vozila: 007816, Pozicija 1: Avtomatizirano skladišče BIESSE-SELCO SK 450 Ksdpswuufqjfx Ah Dsdu Pozicija 2: Krožna žaga za plošče z avtomatiziranim skladiščem BIESSE-SELCO SK 450

Stanje: rabljeno, Numerical control with BSolid software – BSuite3. The working area on the X-axis is 2500 mm, working area on the Y-axis is 900 mm, and working area on the Z-axis is 60 mm. Equipped with automatic unloading device. No. 1 three-axis vertical electrospindle with automatic tool changer, ISO 30 cone type. Tool changer with 8 positions. Drilling head with 17 spindles, arranged as follows: - 6 vertical on the X-axis, - 5 vertical on the Y-axis, - 4 horizontal on the X-axis, and - 2 horizontal on the Y-axis. Integrated saw blade for producing grooves. Safety and protection system for the front mat. Perimeter safety fence. TECHNICAL DETAILS TO BE VERIFIED. Kjdjw Db H Hepfx Ah Dodu

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2019, Numerical control with bSolid software. The multi-document software application in the Windows environment enables the design of the finished product, process definition, job planning, simulation of workpiece machining operations on the 3D model of the machine, and generation of the required machine programs. bSolid - 3-axis machining. bSolid - 5-axis machining module for surface processing with 5-axis units and interpolated movements on all 5 available axes (X, Y, Z, C, B). The module includes the following commands: · Assignment to surfaces, 3D roughing and finishing operations · Spreading or projection of a path onto a curved surface · Machining on a plane · Following 2D or 3D curves with any tool type bSolid - 3D engraving bSolid - Import of external formats Working areas: X = 5055 mm; Y = 1650 mm (may vary depending on configuration) Z = 200 mm with modules H=74 mm Z = 245 mm with modules H=29 mm Workpiece support in Y: * 1650 mm with thickness up to 60 mm on modules with a height of 74 mm * 1600 mm with thickness above 60 mm on modules with a height of 74 mm 10 ATS levels – 40 trolleys. The code includes: • 2 aluminium bars (1 on the left and 1 on the right), on which the lateral stops slide. • 10 aluminium worktables. The worktables slide on hardened and ground linear guides with ball recirculation carriages. Locking is engaged on both linear guides, front and rear, by four pneumatic cylinders. Control is via a button in front of the working area. The carriages slide on steel rails, positioned above the extrusion. Pneumatic locking system, divided into 2 locking zones in X direction. Automatic positioning (EPS) for worktables. 'EPS' (Electronic Positioning System) device for automatic positioning of work surfaces and trolleys via NC, complete with locking devices that eliminate possible operating errors. Rear row stop with 140 mm stroke Middle row stop, positioned at 405 mm, with 140 mm stroke Front row stop, positioned at 1460 mm, with 140 mm stroke 4 side stops with 140 mm stroke (2 right + 2 left) with system 2 additional side stops with 140 mm stroke (1 right + 1 left) Sensor to check if the stops are lowered 12 clamping devices for narrow workpieces 6 loading aid bar lifters, for H=74 mm module Configuration 5A, for Rover B. Configuration for high productivity and flexibility thanks to the two operating units (4 and 5 axes) and the possibility to perform tool changes simultaneously. Includes the axes and carriages for movement of the main operating units. Includes 2 inverters. Second Y-axis. Enables the separation of the front and rear Y carriages with independent motorization. The two Y carriages have a maximum speed of 118 m/min. 13.2 kW (17.7 HP) electrospindle, HSK F63 interface, air-cooled. Main features: • 11 kW (14.7 HP) from 12,000 to 15,000 rpm in S1 mode. • 13.2 kW (17.7 HP) from 12,000 to 15,000 rpm in S6 mode. • Ceramic bearings. • Clockwise and counterclockwise rotation. Kdjdpfx Ahew D E A Ee Dsu • Speed programmable via NC from 1,000 to 24,000 rpm. • The release is pneumatically actuated via a prismatic linear guide and ball bearing. A cover is included for chip extraction with 6 different positions i...