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Stanje: novo, Leto izdelave: 2026, številka stroja/vozila: 26.04.21, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, Fresan FP 80P - C Frame Eccentric Press - 80 Tonnes (800 kN) Ledpjnxh Hrofx Almoab TECHNICAL DATA: * Capacity: 80 tonnes (800 kN) * Strokes: 60 strokes/min (adjustable) * Distance between table and ram: 400 mm * Stroke adjustment: 0 - 112 mm * Ram adjustment: 80 mm (motorized) * Table dimensions: 600 x 900 mm STANDARD SPECIFICATIONS: * Equipment according to CE regulations * Welded steel frame construction * Crankshaft made of alloyed steel AISI 4140 (42CrMo4). Extremely durable and ductile. CNC-ground for minimal surface friction. * Bronze bearings, grade SnBz-12 * Pneumatic clutch-brake combination * Fully enclosed gearbox with helical gearing, oil-lubricated * Press safety valve * Safety PLC & safety switches & light curtains (Pilz) * 6-point ram guide with waste oil collector * 7-inch HMI touchscreen control panel * Adjustable stroke rate via AC inverter * Motorized ram adjustment * Mechanical overload protection (Hydraulic safety device can be retrofitted in a standard machine) * Pneumatic counterbalance cylinders (ISO, 4 pieces) * Automatic central lubrication & waste oil collector (thin oil / slideway oil) OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT: * Additional clamping plate * Parts ejector (upper and/or lower, mechanical or pneumatic) * Material feeding, loading and unloading systems (decoiler, straightener, pneumatic or servo feed unit) * Custom-built machine

Stanje: novo, Leto izdelave: 2026, številka stroja/vozila: 26.04.21, Fresan FP 60P - C Frame Eccentric Press - 60 Tons (600 kN) TECHNICAL DATA: * Capacity: 60 tons (600 kN) * Strokes per minute: 65 spm * Distance between table and ram: 365 mm * Stroke adjustment: 0 - 100 mm * Ram adjustment: 70 mm * Table dimensions: 500 x 700 mm STANDARD SPECIFICATIONS: * Equipment in compliance with CE regulations * Welded steel frame construction * Crankshaft made of alloyed steel AISI 4140 (42CrMo4). Extremely durable and ductile. CNC ground for minimal surface friction. * Bronze bearings, grade SnBz-12 * Pneumatic clutch-brake combination * Fully enclosed, helical-geared gearbox in oil bath * Press safety valve * Safety PLC control & safety switches & light curtains (Pilz) * 4-point ram guidance (6-point option available) * Mechanical overload protection device * Pneumatic counterbalance cylinders * Automatic central lubrication & waste oil collector (thin oil/slideway oil) Lsdpfonwpc Isx Almeab OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT: * Extra clamping plate * Adjustable stroke rate with AC inverter * HMI / touchscreen control panel * Parts ejector (top and/or bottom; mechanical or pneumatic) * Material feed, loading and unloading systems (decoiler, straightening machine, pneumatic or servo roll feeder) * Customized machine

Stanje: novo, Leto izdelave: 2026, številka stroja/vozila: 26.04.21, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, Fresan FP 40P - C Frame Eccentric Press - 40 Tons (400 kN) TECHNICAL DATA: * Capacity: 40 tons (400 kN) * Stroke rate: 125 strokes/min * Distance between table and ram: 320 mm * Adjustable stroke: 0 - 84 mm * Ram adjustment: 70 mm * Table dimensions: 450 x 650 mm STANDARD SPECIFICATIONS: * Equipment in compliance with CE regulations * Welded steel frame construction * Crankshaft made from alloyed steel AISI 4140 (42CrMo4). Extremely durable and ductile. CNC-ground for minimal surface friction. * Bronze bearings, grade SnBz-12 * Pneumatic clutch-brake combination * Press safety valve * Safety PLC control & safety switches & light curtains (Pilz) * Four-point ram guidance * Mechanical overload protection (from 20 tons) * Pneumatic counterbalance cylinders (from 40 tons) * Manual central lubrication & used oil collector (thin oil / slideway oil) OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT: * Additional clamping plate * Automatic central lubrication * Adjustable stroke rate with AC inverter * HMI / touchscreen control panel Lsdpfenwmh Sox Almeab * Parts ejector (upper and/or lower, mechanical or pneumatic) * Material feeding, loading and unloading systems (decoiler / uncoiler, straightener, pneumatic or servo feeder) * Customized machine

Stanje: novo, Leto izdelave: 2026, številka stroja/vozila: 26.04.21, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, Fresan FP 30P - C Frame Eccentric Press - 30 Tons (300kN) Ledpenwfruofx Almsab TECHNICAL DATA: * Capacity: 30 tons (300kN) * Strokes per minute: 140 spm * Distance between table and slide: 305 mm * Stroke adjustment: 0 - 60 mm * Slide adjustment: 60 mm * Table dimensions: 400 x 600 mm STANDARD FEATURES: * Equipment complies with CE regulations * Welded steel frame construction * Crankshaft made from alloy steel AISI 4140 (42CrMo4). Extremely durable and ductile. CNC ground for minimal surface friction. * Bronze bushings, quality grade SnBz-12 * Pneumatic clutch-brake unit * Press safety valve * Safety PLC control system & safety switches & light curtains (Pilz) * 4-point slide guide * Mechanical overload protection (from 20 tons) * Pneumatic counterbalance cylinders (from 40 tons) * Manual central lubrication & used oil collector (thin oil / slideway oil) OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT: * Additional clamping plate * Automatic central lubrication * Adjustable stroke rate with AC inverter * HMI / touchscreen control panel * Parts ejector (upper and/or lower, mechanical or pneumatic) * Material feeding and handling systems (decoiler / coil pay-off, straightener, pneumatic or servo feed unit) * Custom-built machine

Stanje: novo, Leto izdelave: 2026, številka stroja/vozila: 26.04.21, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, Fresan FP 20P - C Frame Eccentric Press - 20 Tonnes (200 kN) TECHNICAL DATA: * Capacity: 20 tonnes (200 kN) * Stroke rate: 160 strokes/min * Distance between table and ram: 240 mm * Adjustable stroke: 0 - 50 mm * Ram adjustment: 40 mm * Table dimensions: 360 x 550 mm STANDARD SPECIFICATIONS: * Equipment in compliance with CE regulations * Welded steel frame construction * Crankshaft made of alloy steel AISI 4140 (42CrMo4). Extremely durable and ductile. CNC ground for minimal surface friction. Lajdpfx Ajnwfp Iolmsb * Bronze bearings, grade SnBz-12 * Pneumatic clutch-brake combination * Press safety valve * Safety PLC control & safety switches & light barriers (Pilz) * Four-point ram guidance * Mechanical overload protection (from 20 tonnes) * Pneumatic counterbalance cylinders (from 40 tonnes) * Manual central lubrication & used oil collector (thin oil / slideway oil) OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT: * Extra clamping plate * Automatic central lubrication * Adjustable stroke rate with AC inverter * HMI / touchscreen control panel * Parts ejector (upper and/or lower, mechanical or pneumatic) * Material feeding, loading and unloading systems (decoiler / pay-off reel, straightener, pneumatic or servo feeder) * Customized machine

Stanje: novo, Leto izdelave: 2026, številka stroja/vozila: 26.04.21, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, Fresan FP 10P - C Frame Eccentric Press - 10 Tonnes (100 kN) TECHNICAL DATA: * Capacity: 10 tonnes (100 kN) * Strokes per minute: 200 spm * Distance between table and slide: 190 mm * Stroke adjustment: 0 - 40 mm * Slide adjustment: 35 mm * Table dimensions: 265 x 370 mm STANDARD FEATURES: * Equipment in accordance with CE regulations * Welded steel frame construction * Crankshaft made of alloyed steel AISI 4140 (42CrMo4). Extremely durable and ductile. CNC ground for minimal surface friction. * Bronze bearings, quality grade SnBz-12 * Pneumatic clutch-brake unit * Press safety valve * Safety PLC control & safety switches & light curtains (Pilz) * Four-point slide guiding * Mechanical overload protection (from 20 tonnes) * Pneumatic counterbalance cylinders (from 40 tonnes) * Manual central lubrication & used oil collector (thin oil / slideway oil) OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT: * Extra clamping plate * Automatic central lubrication * Adjustable stroke rate with AC inverter Lajdpfx Aenvfmyolmsb * HMI / touchscreen control panel * Part ejector (upper and/or lower, mechanical or pneumatic) * Material feeding, loading and unloading systems (decoiler, straightener, pneumatic or servo feeder) * Custom-built machine

Stanje: novo, Leto izdelave: 2026, številka stroja/vozila: 26.04.21, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, Fresan FP 15P - C Frame Eccentric Press - 15 Tonnes (150 kN) TECHNICAL DATA: * Capacity: 15 tonnes (150 kN) * Strokes per minute: 200 spm * Distance between table and slide: 200 mm * Stroke adjustment: 0 - 40 mm * Slide adjustment: 40 mm * Table dimensions: 320 x 490 mm STANDARD SPECIFICATIONS: * Equipment compliant with CE regulations * Welded steel frame construction * Crankshaft made from alloy steel AISI 4140 (42CrMo4). Extremely durable and ductile. CNC ground for minimal surface friction. * Bronze bearings, quality SnBz-12 * Pneumatic clutch-brake combination * Press safety valve * Safety PLC control, safety switches & light curtains (by Pilz) * Four-way slide guidance * Mechanical overload protection (from 20 tonnes) * Pneumatic counterbalance cylinders (from 40 tonnes) * Manual central lubrication & used oil collector (thin oil / slideway oil) OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT: * Additional clamping plate * Automatic central lubrication * Adjustable stroke rate with AC inverter * HMI / touchscreen control panel * Part ejector (upper and/or lower, mechanical or pneumatic) Lsdenvfv Nspfx Almeab * Material feeding, loading and unloading systems (coil reel/uncoiler, straightener, pneumatic or servo feeder) * Custom-built machine

Leto izdelave: 1990, stanje: zelo dobro (rabljeno), Pressing force 800 kN, stroke adjustment 30 - 240 mm, ram adjustment 80 mm, strokes 30 - 90 / min, table 1,200 x 800 mm, through-hole 350 x 370 mm, ram size 900 x 450 mm, throat depth 410 mm, max. table-to-ram 695 mm, ejector, ejector stroke 70 mm, ram weight compensation, oil-air cooling system, safety control III. Height 3,600 mm Laedpfsiuxwqox Almeb Width 1,660 mm Depth 2,400 mm Weight 12,100 kg

Stanje: rabljeno, Presse excentrique à col de cygne HELMERDING type EH 25 B No de machine : 5917 Année de fabrication : 1993 Force de pressage : 25 tonnes Profondeur de col de cygne : 180 mm Table : 560 x 360 mm Surface du coulisseau : 315 x 150 mm Ouverture de passage dans la table : 150 x 100 mm Réglage de la course : 8 - 82 mm Course réglable du coulisseau : 60 mm Hauteur d'installation max. : 330 mm Alésage pour tenon de fixation : Ø 40 mm Fréquence des coups : 145 coups/min Réglage en hauteur de la table : 150 mm Hauteur de table au-dessus du sol : 630 - 780 mm Puissance moteur : 1,5 kW Raccordement électrique : 400 V, 50 Hz - Embrayage-frein hydraulique, marque : ORTLINGHAUS - Pédale électrique et commande bimanuelle - Graissage centralisé automatique, BEKA Schmiertechnik - Armoire électrique avec commande à contacteurs bi-canal - Table de presse réglable en hauteur par 2 vis de réglage - Sécurité UVV selon VBG 7n 5.1 pour travail manuel - Schéma électrique Encombrement (L x l x h) : 1600 x 1100 x 1900 mm Poids : 2 tonnes Bon état Ljdpfx Aloyath Tsmeab

Stanje: rabljeno, stiskalna sila: 150 t, Ekscentrična stiskalnica Znamka: ULECIA Serijska št.: 1877 Tip: Pnevmatska sklopka Sila: 150 t Lodpfeylzcvox Almjab Udari na minuto: 40 Hod (maks./min.): 160 / 24 mm Moč: 10 KM *Stiskalnica se dostavi v trenutnem stanju, brez vsakršne garancije.

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1992, stiskalna sila: 160 t, hod: 180 mm, skupna masa: 13.000 kg, Ekscentrična stiskalnica Znamka: AITOR Model: ARMM/EF Tip: Pnevmatska sklopka Leto: 1992 Sila: 160 t Laedpfx Asyl Tuwslmob Udarcev na minuto: 50 Hod (Maksimalni / Minimalni): 180 / 5 mm Maksimalno podaljšanje ojnice: 120 mm Teža: 13.000 kg *Stiskalnica se prodaja v stanju kot je, brez kakršnekoli garancije.

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1981, Technical details: Pressing force: 250 t Laodpfx Alou Nfkljmsb Ram stroke: 36...126 mm Throat depth: 400 mm Ram adjustment: 110 mm Ram clamping surface: 630 x 500 x 100 mm Installation height: 400 mm Table size: 1000 x 750 x 100 mm Table height above floor: 1000 mm Total power requirement: 23.0 kW Machine weight approx.: 13.5 t Control cabinet dimensions (LxWxH): 1.1 x 0.7 x 1.3 m Machine dimensions approx. (LxWxH): 3.0 x 1.3 x 3.3 m Further features: - Operation via two-hand control stand with foot pedal - 4 foot plates, Ø 220 mm

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1980, Tehnične podrobnosti: Tlak: cca 100 t Razdalja med stebri: 500 mm Izpust: do središča bata: 350 mm Vgradna višina: 450+100 mm Hod bata - min.: 26 mm Hod bata - max.: 152 mm Nastavitev bata: mogoče mm Površina bata: 550 x 400 mm Vpenjalna miza: 1020 x 710 mm Skupna potrebna moč: 10 kW Teža stroja pribl.: cca 7 t Prostorske zahteve pribl.: D:2,0 x Š:1,7 x V:3,2 m Lasdou Nfhdspfx Almeb - brez vlečne blazine Stiskalnico je možno demonstrirati.

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1983, Technical details: Pressing force: 100 t Stroke: fixed 20 mm Strokes per minute: 55 spm Throat depth: 355 mm Ram bore: Ø 36 mm Table size: 900x640 mm Ram adjustment: 150 mm Ram clamping area: 500x415 mm Height above floor: 800 mm Maximum distance between table and ram: 390 mm Passage opening in table: Ø 330 mm Total power requirement: 11 kW Approx. machine weight: 7.5 t Approx. machine dimensions LxWxH: 1.46x1.58x2.57 m Transport dimensions LxWxH: 1.9x1.6x3.1 m The press is supplied without machine control panel/electrical cabinet. (Control system can be supplied optionally.) Ljdpfju Nfizex Almsab Complete electric single drive for 3x 380 Volt, 50 Hz Belt and ram guard Friction clutch and brake unit PRESSMATIC

Stanje: rabljeno, Technical details: Pressure: 250 t Stroke: Continuous idle 40 mm Ram stroke: adjustable 36 - 126 mm Ram adjustability: 110 mm Ram clamping area: 630 x 500 mm (L x W) Clamping surface: 1000 x 750 x 100 mm Distance table / ram: 400-526 mm Passage opening in table: 400 x 360 mm Operating pressure: 0.6 MPa Ejector stroke: 63 mm Throat depth: 400 mm Lodou N Ddwepfx Almjab Total power requirement: approx. 20.0 kW Control cabinet dimensions (L x W x H): 1.2 x 0.65 x 2.1 m Machine dimensions approx. (L x W x H): 2.9 x 1.2 x 3.4 m - Two-hand operation - Operator stand Accessories: - Base plate 2200 x 1500 x 40 mm

Stanje: rabljeno, Tehnične podrobnosti: Tlak: 160 t Hod berila: 32...140 mm Število hodov: 50 hodov/min Izservanje: 400 mm Vgradna višina: 400 mm Nastavitev berilnega vozička: 100 mm Velikost mize: 1000x750 (ali vpenjalne plošče) mm Lsdpfxeu N Dfhe Almsab Površina berila: 850x630 mm Luknja za zatič: 400x360 mm Skupna potrebna moč: 15,5 kW Teža stroja cca: cca 10,5 t Mere D-Š-V: električna omara 1,06x0,6x2,0 mm Mere D x Š x V: D:2,9 x Š:1,25 x V:3,3 m - Možen posamezni in/ali neprekinjeni hod - 2 vpenjalni plošči (1200x760x90 mm in 1200x760x70 mm, luknja za zatič Ø=300 mm) - Možno upravljanje z nogo in roko - Zadnji pregled opravljen leta 2006 - 80A; komprimiran zrak 6 kp/cm²; količina olja cca. 30 litrov v skladu z normo.

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1969, Technical details: Pressure: 40 t Throat depth: 220 mm Stroke: 10 - 120 mm Ram adjustment: 63 mm Strokes per minute: 160 spm Distance table/ram: 300 mm Table size (LxW): 440 x 620 mm Pass-through opening in table: Ø 200 mm Ljdeu Nfkxjpfx Almjab Ram clamping surface: 400 x 250 mm Approx. machine weight: 2.52 t Approx. machine dimensions (LxWxH): 1.5 x 1.2 x 1.3 m The table is fitted with a clamping plate: LxW: 440 x 620 mm with central bore Ø 100 mm. A steel plate 380 x 325 x 27 mm is mounted on the ram. The press is equipped with two-hand operation.

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1985, Technical details: Pressure: 100 t Stroke rate: 35-100 strokes/min Throat depth: 360 mm Ram adjustment: 20-130 mm Ram surface: 750x550 mm Clamping plate on table: 1000x640 mm Stroke adjustment: 90 mm Clearance between uprights (longitudinal/lateral): 610x500 / 440x550 mm Shut height (table/ram bottom): 300 mm Total power requirement: 17.5 kW Machine weight approx.: 7.0 t Machine dimensions approx. LxWxH: 1.9x1.4x2.7 m - The ram plate is equipped with 5 longitudinal T-slots - Center hole = 50 mm This press is currently for sale without control system. Completion to customer specification available as an option. i.e. Laedou Nfh Dopfx Almjb

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1980, Technical details: Pressing force: 400 t Stroke: 40 - 140 mm Strokes/min, continuous: 32 Throat depth: 400 mm Shut height, min/max: 450/590 mm Ram adjustment: 125 mm Table size: 1250 x 750 mm Height above floor: 1130 mm Total power requirement: approx. 31.5 kW Machine weight, approx.: 23.0 t Machine dimensions (LxWxH): 3.7 x 1.7 x 3.9 m Control cabinet dimensions (LxWxH): 1.0 x 0.7 x 2.1 m Additional features: - Clamping plate L:1260 x W:760 x H:100 mm - Equipped with drawing device, force: 250 kN, stroke approx. 83 mm - Operation via control panel No UVV (accident prevention regulations) In operation. Laodpfxeu N A Uuj Almob

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1980, Détails techniques : Pression : 160 t Course : 20-160 mm Profondeur de col de cygne : 400 mm Réglage du coulisseau : 120 mm Nombre de courses : 71 cp/min Hauteur d'installation table/coulisseau en haut : 720 mm (course 160 mm) Hauteur d'installation table/coulisseau en bas : 560 mm (course 160 mm) Surface du coulisseau : 900 x 660 mm Passage entre les montants : 500 x 450 mm Surface de la table (LxlxØ) : 1200 x 750 x 100 mm Puissance totale requise : env. 23,0 kW Lajdpfx Asu N A U Iolmob Poids de la machine env. : 15,0 t Dimensions de la machine (LxlxH) : 2,7 x 1,5 x 3,45 m Dimensions de l'armoire électrique (LxlxH) : 2,0 x 0,65 x 2,15 m Commande via pupitre/pupitre sur pied/pédale et boîtier de commande manuel. La presse peut être proposée selon deux options : 1ère option : Vente en l'état, non raccordée, non complète, non fonctionnelle. 2ème option : La presse est remise à neuf, toutes les pièces sont remplacées, rénovées et contrôlées. La presse est entièrement révisée. Pour toute demande concernant cette presse, veuillez indiquer l'option d'offre souhaitée ! i. D.

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1964, Technical Details: Press Force: 125 t Stroke: 28 mm Number of Strokes: 56–225 strokes/min Clearance Between Uprights: 1000 mm Ram Adjustment: 60 mm Distance Table/Ram: 376 mm Table Size: W 950 x D 720 mm Through-Opening in Table: 400 x 130 mm Height Above Floor: 1120 mm Ram Area: 920 x 540 mm Ram Bore: Ø 65 x 120 mm Lateral Frame Passage: 250 mm Total Power Requirement: 30 kW Machine Weight approx.: 15.5 t Machine Dimensions: 3.1 x 1.34 x 3.6 m Control Cabinet Dimensions (LxWxH): 0.64 x 0.22 x 1.2 m This press is a high-performance machine designed for large-scale serial production. Features a mechanical feeder for material input on the left side and a scrap shear on the right side. Feed length = 0–200 mm; Roller width = 250 mm Partially supplied with an operating manual (copy). Machine is not operational! As is. Ljdpfx Alsu Nfibsmeab

Stanje: rabljeno, Tehnične podrobnosti: Tlak: 90 t Izvenje: 320 mm Število hodov: 90 hodov/min Vgradna višina: miza/beran zgoraj: cca 380 mm Nastavitev berana: max. 65 mm Površina berana: 600x55 mm Vpenjalna plošča na mizi: 800x640x80 mm Prehod: 260x160 mm Nastavitev hoda: 60 mm fiksno Lajdpfxou Nfg Ho Almsb Skupna priključna moč: 5,5 kW Teža stroja pribl.: 4500 kg Potrebni prostor pribl.: D:1,8xŠ:0,82xV:2,42 m - Posamezni/kontinuirani hod - Redni pregledi izvedeni, prenovljen 2010 - Trenutno brez krmilne omare, brez krmiljenja, brez tlačne posode *

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1983, Technical details: Pressure: 100 t Stroke: 20 mm fixed Strokes per minute: 55 Table surface: 900x640 mm Throat depth: 355 mm Ram adjustment: 150 mm Pin hole in ram: Ø 36 mm Ram clamping surface: 500x415 mm Height above floor level: 800 mm Max. distance between table and ram: 390 mm Die opening in table: Ø 330 mm Total power requirement: 11 kW Machine weight approx.: 7.5 t Transport dimensions (LxWxH): 1.9x1.6x3.1 m Press is without machine control panel/control cabinet (installation optional). Complete electric separate drive for 3x 380 Volts, 50 Hz Laodpfxeu Nfi Uj Almsb Belt and ram guard Friction clutch and brake unit PRESSMATIC

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1969, Tehnični podatki: Tlak: 55 t Iztek: 250 mm Ledpoxu Dwmofx Almeab Število hodov: 120 hodov/min Vgradna višina: miza/bata zgoraj: 380 mm Nastavitev bata: 55 mm Debelina pločevine pri prehodnem hodu: 2,25 mm Območje hoda bata: 6 - 90 mm Skupna potrebna moč: 8,8 kW Približna masa stroja: 2,75 t Dimenzije D x Š x V: 1,4 x 1,2 x 2,2 m

Stanje: rabljeno, Tehnične podrobnosti: Pritisk: 160 t Izvitek: 760 mm Hod bata: 32...140 mm Razdalja med mizo in batom: 400 mm Nastavitev bata: 100 mm Število hodov: 50 hodov/min Miza: 760x1000x95 mm Prehodna odprtina v mizi: 400x350 mm Vpenjalna površina bata: 630x850 mm Vpenjalna plošča: 760x1010x92 mm Skupna potreba po moči: 15 kW Teža stroja pribl.: 6,2 t Dimenzije stroja pribl. D x Š x V: 2,9x1,2x3,4 m Dimenzije elektro omare D x Š x V: 0,8x0,45x2,1 m Upravljanje preko dvomičnega upravljanja Stroj je možno demonstrirati. i.D. Laedpfxju Nfhqe Almob *