Robino &Amp; Galandrino Zenith Z 3-36 Ottico nakup rabljenega (90.942)

Leto izdelave: 2025, obratovalne ure: 50 h, stanje: kot nova (razstavni stroj), Spray-Flood Cleaning System – Parts Cleaning System for Highest Demands and Precision/Ultrafine Cleaning Basket usable dimensions: LxWxH 600x400x300 mm Max. loading weight: 150 kg; loading cart for use in front of the system included 3-Tank Configuration: - Cleaning (600 liters) - Rinse 1 (600 liters) - Rinse 2 (600 liters) System electrically heated - Cleaning methods: spraying, injection flooding, ultrasonic cleaning - Ultrasonic (rod transducer): 3,000 watts effective / 6,000 watts peak – 30 kHz - During cleaning, rinsing and drying, the basket can be stationary, oscillating or rotating (freely selectable in the program) - Hot air and vacuum drying (vacuum pump by Leybold, 300 m3/h) - Full-filtration of all tanks (3), each with Topline bag filter (by Eaton), filter rating freely selectable - Automatic water refill for each tank - Prepared for coalescence oil separator Klodjg Itg Eopfx Almst - Prepared for installation of a demineralized water (DI/VE) recirculation system for rinse water treatment Control: Siemens S7-1200 with 16 programs Year of manufacture: 12/2025

Stanje: zelo dobro (rabljeno), konfiguracija osi: 3 osi, dovoljena osna obremenitev (os 1): 10.000 kg, dovoljena osna obremenitev (os 2): 10.000 kg, dovoljena osna obremenitev (os 3): 10.000 kg, prva registracija: 09/2021, dolžina tovornega prostora: 8.250 mm, širina tovornega prostora: 2.480 mm, skupna dolžina: 10.850 mm, skupna širina: 2.550 mm, vzmetenje: zrak, velikost pnevmatike: 245/70-R17.5, medosna razdalja: 5.910 mm, Leto izdelave: 2021, = Additional Options and Accessories = - Stake pockets = Remarks = Very nice 2021 FLOOR AXD.330 3-axle trailer with ABS/EBS, SAF axles (3x 10,000kg) with drum brakes, hot-dip galvanized, 2nd axle = lift axle, aluminum side walls (60 cm high), hardwood floor, floor height: 90 cm, various stake pockets + 4 stakes and lashing rings, towing eye (40 mm) adjustable by 60 cm, 2x lift and lower valves, unladen weight: 6,210 kg, max. weight: 30,000 kg, 245/70-R17.5 tires (L: 7/8 mm, 4/4 mm, 4/1 mm; R: 7/7 mm, 3/3 mm, 3/2 mm), Dutch registration = Further Information = Axle Configuration Tire size: 245/70-R17.5 Axle Brand: SAF DRUM Brakes: Drum brakes Suspension: Air suspension Front axle: Twin tires; Max. axle load: 10,000 kg; Steered; Tire tread depth left inner: 50%; left outer: 45%; right inner: 45%; right outer: 45% Rear axle 1: Twin tires; Lift axle; Max. axle load: 10,000 kg; Tire tread depth left inner: 25%; left outer: 25%; right inner: 20%; right outer: 20% Rear axle 2: Twin tires; Max. axle load: 10,000 kg; Tire tread depth left inner: 10%; left outer: 25%; right inner: 20%; right outer: 20% Klodpfx Asx U Ed Rslmjt Weights Unladen weight: 6,210 kg Payload: 23,790 kg Gross vehicle weight: 30,000 kg Functional Body brand: FLOOR AXD.330 Extendable body: Yes Condition Technical condition: very good Optical condition: very good Identification Registration: 75-WBN-9 Further Information Contact Arne Honingh for more information.

Stanje: novo, skupna masa: 36.000 kg, konfiguracija osi: 3 osi, dolžina tovornega prostora: 9.000 mm, širina tovornega prostora: 2.430 mm, višina nakladalnega prostora: 2.300 mm, prostornina tovornega prostora: 50 m³, skupna širina: 2.550 mm, Leto izdelave: 2026, Oprema: ABS, KEMPF SKM 36/3 AK – 3-Axle Aluminium Tipping Semi-Trailer 50 m³ – New Vehicle ----Vehicle Data Manufacturer: Fahrzeugbau KEMPF GmbH * Model: SKM 36/3 AK * Design: 3-axle tipping semi-trailer with aluminium box body * Destination country: Germany * Permissible gross weight: 36,000 kg * Axle load: 3 × 8,000 kg * Fifth wheel load: approx. 12,000 kg * Nominal coupling height (laden): approx. 1,200 mm (technically possible: 1,200–1,260 mm) * Loading length: approx. 9,000 mm * Loading width: approx. 2,430 mm * Body height: approx. 2,300 mm * Body volume: approx. 50.3 m³ * Overall height: approx. 3,710 mm up to loading edge (laden) ----Paintwork / Design * Chassis: Deep black RAL 9005 * Attachments: Hot-dip galvanized and black powder-coated * Axles and hubs: Black (KTL-coated) * Body: White aluminium RAL 9006 * Tarp: Silver No. 911 (Mehler) * Conspicuity markings side (white) and rear (red) according to EC regulations ----Chassis and Running Gear * Frame: High-grade welded construction made from fine-grained steel, conically cranked (approx. 80 mm) * Axles: SAF INTRADISC plus Integral – off-road version, disc brakes Ø 430 mm * Lift axle: 1st axle, fully automatic, liftable, with forced lowering in unladen mode * Air suspension: Air suspension units with small air bellows (300 mm), plastic covers * Air tanks: Aluminium version * Landing legs: 2 aluminium drop supports, max. 24 t (2 × 12 t) * Mudguards: PVC half-shells with rigid spray suppressor * Toolboxes: 2 PVC, black, each approx. 660 × 500 × 460 mm * Side underrun protection: right side * Ladder: Removable, aluminium, approx. 4,000 mm long * Access ladder: extendable at the rear (not UVV-compliant) ----Rear Under-run and Rear End * Folding steel underrun protection according to ECE R58.03 * With spring-assisted lift and integrated towing eye * Continuous KEMPF mudflap with large reflective panel (200 × 1,130 mm) ----Lighting and Electrics * Complete LED lighting according to ADR standard * Side marker, position, reversing, and rear fog lights in LED * 2 LED work lights (left/right) * Cargo area lighting with switch and indicator light * 15-pin electrical connection * Round lights with chrome rings * Without reversing camera ----Tyres * Rims: Alcoa Ultra ONE aluminium wheels, Dura-Bright EVO, ET 120 * Tyres: 385/65 R 22.5, brand per Kempf's choice ----Braking system and Safety * Electronic braking system (EBS) Wabco with RSS (Roll Stability Support) * ABS 4-channel (4S/2M) * Parking brake via spring actuators * Axle load indicator via EBS CANbus (display in cab possible) * Trailer information module SmartBoard (Wabco) * Tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS) to ECE R141 ----Hydraulics * Hydraulic front tipping cylinder (Hyva), operating pressure 190 bar, single-circuit hydraulic system * Smallest piston hard-chromed * Hydraulic connection: Edbro 1" screw-type coupling Kljdoxn Eb Hopfx Almjt ----Body / Tipping Body * Aluminium rear-tipping body made of hollow profiles * Front wall: 20° sloped, approx. 5 mm thick, with reinforced supports for front ram * Floor: approx. 7 mm thick, annealed aluminium * Side walls: Aluminium hollow profiles, continuous 2.5 mm inner wall, fully welded * Rear wall: Straight, pendulum, 2-wing (2/3 left, 1/3 right), automatic pneumatic locking * Rear wall control: left switch (pendulum function), right switch (door function) * Grain-tight design * Slider: approx. 400 × 400 mm, lever operated to the left * Dust bag with adapter frame (hopper approx. 250 mm high) * Walkway with g

Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, številka stroja/vozila: WKY3S0139PM046963, lastna masa: 6.100 kg, največja dovoljena obremenitev: 29.900 kg, skupna masa: 36.000 kg, konfiguracija osi: 3 osi, prva registracija: 06/2023, naslednji pregled (TÜV): 10/2026, dolžina tovornega prostora: 9.500 mm, širina tovornega prostora: 2.350 mm, višina nakladalnega prostora: 1.800 mm, prostornina tovornega prostora: 37 m³, vzmetenje: zrak, velikost pnevmatike: 385/65 R 22.5, barva: črn, Oprema: ABS, Naša številka vozila: # 30623 Kodpfx Aljxp Hv Iemjlt Kempf SKM 36/3 Aluminijasta polkrožna kesonska prikolica, 37,1 m³ Tla iz 7 mm debelega žarjenega aluminija Plastična obloga OKULEN, Okuslide Premium tough blue – za hladne razsute materiale, debelina plošče 12,5 mm IPH dvigalo za kipanje Nihajna zadnja loputa Vodotesna proti blatu Zaslonka za žito Pnevmatsko zaklepanje Manometer za obremenitev Ponjava za zvijanje Podest z lestvijo BPW Eco Air HD osi Pnevmatike 385/65 R 22.5 Aluminijasta platišča Alcoa Dura-Bright Kolutne zavore Dvig/Spuščanje Zračno vzmetenje ABS EBS RSS Haacon podstavne noge Zložljiva zadnja zaščita proti vdoru Stranska zaščita proti vdoru Orodjarna Ohišje za gasilni aparat 2x delovna luč Na zahtevo je možna tudi financiranje/finančni najem!

Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, številka stroja/vozila: WKY3S0139PM046964, lastna masa: 6.100 kg, največja dovoljena obremenitev: 29.900 kg, skupna masa: 36.000 kg, konfiguracija osi: 3 osi, prva registracija: 06/2023, naslednji pregled (TÜV): 10/2026, dolžina tovornega prostora: 9.500 mm, širina tovornega prostora: 2.350 mm, višina nakladalnega prostora: 1.800 mm, prostornina tovornega prostora: 37 m³, vzmetenje: zrak, velikost pnevmatike: 385/65 R 22.5, barva: črn, Oprema: ABS, naša številka vozila: #30622 Kempf SKM 36/3 Polkrožna aluminijasta prekucna keson, 37,1 m³ Tla iz 7 mm debelo žarjenega aluminija Plastična obloga OKULEN, Okuslide Premium tough blue – za hladne sipke materiale, debelina plošče 12,5 mm IPH prekucni cilinder Nihajna loputa Blatna tesnitev Žitni drsnik Pnevmatska zapora Manometer za obremenitev Navojna ponjava Podest z lestvijo BPW Eco Air HD osi Pnevmatike 385/65 R 22.5 Aluminijasta platišča Alcoa Dura-Bright Kolutne zavore Dviganje/spuščanje Zračno vzmetenje ABS EBS RSS Haacon podporne noge Zložljiva zadnja stranska zaščita Stranska zaščita proti podletu Škatla za orodje Škatla za gasilni aparat Kledpfx Aoxp Huwolmjt 2x delovni žaromet Možnost financiranja/leasinga na povpraševanje!

Stanje: novo, Dolžina upogibanja: 3100, Debelina pločevine: 4, Premer zgornjega valja: 170 Standardne lastnosti: Zadnji valj z motorjem Naprava za stožčasto upogibanje Kledpfx Aod Ab Nmjlmst Kaljeni in polirani valji Ohišje iz jekla ST 52 Zgornji valj se po upogibanju bočno odpira za lažje odstranjevanje materiala Asimetrična zasnova za popolno upogibanje Za popoln rezultat sta zgornji in spodnji valj gnana z elektromotorjem z zavoro in planetnim zobniškim pogonom Ustreza CE-standardom Prenosna upravljalna konzola za upravljanje stroja z različnih mest OPTIONALNO EnotaKos Neto cena (€) Spodnji valji z motorjem1 1.205 € Digitalni prikazovalnik za zadnji valj1 815 € Podaljšani valji1 788 €

Stanje: novo, Dimenzija (D x Š x V): 1.630 x 700 x 1.200 mm Teža ca.: 480 kg Skupna potrebna moč: 1,1 kW Upogib: 2 Debelina pločevine: 3 mm Dolžina pločevine: 1.050 mm Tehnični podatki Valjčna naprava za pločevino Premer valja: 90 mm Hitrost valjanja: 6 m/min • Asimetrična razporeditev valjev • 2 valja gnana s pomočjo zavornega motorja • Nastavitev zadnjega valja z ročnim kolesom Kljdpjd Eqqqefx Almet • Zgornji valj izmenljiv • Naprava za konusno valjanje • Dvojna nožna stikala za desni-levi tek • Spodnji in zadnji valj z utori za žico • Navodila za uporabo v NEMŠČINI DODATNO: kaljeni valji EURO 900,--

Stanje: rabljeno, prevoženi kilometri: 12.452 km, vrsta prenosa: drugo, vrsta goriva: električni, barva: rdeča, skupna masa: 1.330 kg, lastna masa: 700 kg, največja dovoljena obremenitev: 150 kg, število sedežev: 1, prva registracija: 12/2016, emisijski razred: noben, vzmetenje: drugo, Leto izdelave: 2016, obratovalne ure: 12.452 h, voznikova kabina: drugo, gorivo: elektrika, The Linde P 60 Z tow tractor is an efficient 3-wheel electric vehicle, ideal for industrial use and transport tasks. First registered on December 20, 2016, it has a moderate mileage of 12,452 km and a total of 12,452 operating hours. The red tractor has a permissible gross weight of 1,330 kg and is in a used but well-maintained condition. The tractor is powered by a 48V battery; however, a charger is not included in the scope of delivery. Registration service and optional delivery within Germany are available for interested buyers. Viewing is possible Monday to Friday from 08:00 to 17:00 and Saturdays from 09:00 to 14:00. Overall, the Linde P 60 Z tow tractor represents a reliable solution for a wide range of transport requirements. Kledor Uzifepfx Almjt Sale only to commercial customers (agriculture, freelancers, small and large businesses) or for export. Errors and prior sale excepted.

Stanje: rabljeno, prevoženi kilometri: 11.932 km, vrsta prenosa: drugo, vrsta goriva: električni, barva: rdeča, skupna masa: 1.330 kg, lastna masa: 700 kg, največja dovoljena obremenitev: 150 kg, število sedežev: 1, prva registracija: 12/2016, emisijski razred: noben, vzmetenje: drugo, Leto izdelave: 2016, obratovalne ure: 11.932 h, voznikova kabina: drugo, gorivo: elektrika, The Linde P 60 Z tow tractor is a used, electrically powered three-wheel tractor, first registered on December 20, 2016. With a mileage of 11,932 kilometers and operating hours, the vehicle demonstrates a solid track record of use. The red paintwork is eye-catching, and the machine provides seating for a single driver. Kedpor Uzixsfx Almelt The tractor is powered by a 48V battery of type 3 EPZV 300; a charger is not included in the scope of delivery. With a permissible total weight of 1,330 kg, the Linde P 60 Z is versatile for a variety of applications. It was previously owned by a single owner and is now mainly targeted at commercial buyers or the export market. Interested parties can view the tractor in Rohrbach (Pfalz) from Monday to Saturday without prior appointment. In addition, the seller offers registration services as well as options for delivery within Germany at an additional cost. Sale only to businesses (agriculture, freelancers, small and large enterprises) or for export. Subject to errors and prior sale.

Stanje: rabljeno, največja dovoljena obremenitev: 30.380 kg, skupna masa: 36.000 kg, konfiguracija osi: 3 osi, prva registracija: 02/2022, dolžina tovornega prostora: 8.700 mm, širina tovornega prostora: 2.350 mm, višina nakladalnega prostora: 1.900 mm, prostornina tovornega prostora: 35 m³, Leto izdelave: 2022, Oprema: ABS, Zračno vzmetenje, dvižni mehanizem, BPW zavorni disk, EBS, alu zložljivo podporo, PVC polovični blatniki, 2x WZK, bočna zaščita desno, dostopna lestev, zložljiv UFS iz aluminija, odbojna tabla, aluminijasta platišča, manometer za nakladanje, aluminijasta korita, dno 10 mm, obrabna pločevina v dnu 7 mm, stranske obrabne pločevine, zadnja stena ležeča, Cramaro konstrukcija za ponjavo. Na voljo je več vozil z enakim letnikom in opremo. Kodsrxa Ntopfx Almslt

Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2012, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, volumenski pretok: 18.000 m³/h, filtrirna površina: 120 m², Filter hose length 2000 mm Shaking mechanism mechanical/pneumatic Floor assembly with agitator blade and screw discharge Kljdpfewhlkwox Almet Gear motor 2.2 kW Connection for briquetting press with air recirculation

Stanje: novo, Bending length: 1600 mm Sheet thickness: 8 mm Top roller diameter: 170 mm Technical Data: - Back roller driven by motor - Cone bending device - Hardened and polished rollers - Entire frame made from St 52 steel - Asymmetric design for perfect bending results Ksdpfx Alsd Ab Nqomolt - Top and bottom rollers driven by brake electromotors and planetary gearboxes - Portable control desk - In compliance with CE standards Options: - Bottom roller driven by electric motor: EUR 1,650 - Digital display for back roller position: EUR 1,010 - Extended rollers: EUR 966 - Profile rollers: EUR 1,190 We have numerous references!

Stanje: novo, Sheet thickness: 3.3 mm Bending length: 1050 mm Top roll diameter: 90 mm Kedsd Ab T Djpfx Almslt Technical specifications: - Cast iron body - Manual or motorized (optional) bending - After bending, the top roll can be swung out to the side for easy removal of the workpiece - Cone bending device - Rear roll and lower roll are raised and lowered manually via handwheel - Portable control panel - In compliance with CE standards Options: - Motorized rear roll EURO 825 - Digital display for rear roll position EURO 1,010 - Body cover EURO 274 - Hardened rolls EURO 480 We have many references!

Stanje: novo, Bending length: 1550 mm Sheet thickness: 1.2 mm Upper roll diameter: 70 mm Technical Data: - Cast iron body - Manual or motorized bending (optional) - After bending, the upper roll can be opened to the side for easy removal of the material - Cone bending device - Rear and lower rolls can be adjusted up and down manually with handwheel - Portable control panel - In compliance with CE standards Kodsd Ab T Iepfx Almjlt Options: - Motorized rear roll - Digital display for rear roll position - Body cover EURO 362,-- - Hardened rolls EURO 550,-- - Variable rotation speed We have numerous references!

Stanje: novo, Sheet thickness: 1.2 mm Bending length: 1550 mm Top roller diameter: 70 mm Technical Data: - Cast iron body - Manual or motorized (optional) bending - After bending, the top roller can be swung out to easily remove the material - Conical bending device - Movement of the rear and lower rollers up and down manually via handwheel - Portable control panel - In compliance with CE standards Options: - Rear roller with motor EURO 825,-- - Digital display for rear roller position EURO 1,010,-- - Body cover EURO 362,-- - Hardened rollers EURO 550,-- Kedpfx Alod Ab T Nemjlt We have numerous references!

Stanje: novo, Bending length: 1050 mm Sheet thickness: 1 mm Upper roller diameter: 56 mm Technical data: - Cast iron body - Manual or motorized (optional) bending - After bending, the upper roller can be swung out to easily remove the material - Cone bending device - Manual adjustment of rear and lower rollers using handwheels - Portable control panel - In compliance with CE standards Options: - Motorized rear roller - Digital display to indicate the rear roller position - Body cover - Hardened rollers EURO 336, -- Klodped Ab Uxefx Almjt We have many references!

Stanje: novo, Dolžina upogibanja: 1050 Debelina pločevine: 1 Premer zgornjega valja: 56 Tehnični podatki: - Ohišje iz sive litine - Ročno ali motorizirano (opcijsko) upogibanje - Po upogibu se zgornji valj odpre na stran za enostavno odstranitev materiala - Naprava za stožčasto upogibanje - Premikanje zadnjega in spodnjega valja ročno z volanom navzgor in navzdol - Prenosna upravljalna konzola - V skladu s CE standardi Opcije: - Zadnji valj z motorjem - Digitalni prikaz položaja zadnjega valja Kjdpod Ab Uyjfx Almelt - Pokrov ohišja - Kaljeni valji EURO 396, -- Imamo veliko referenc!

Stanje: novo, Bending length: 1050 mm Sheet thickness: 0.8 mm Top roll diameter: 46 mm Kodpod Ab U Ajfx Almslt Technical data: - Cast iron body - Manual or motorized (optional) bending operation - Top roll can be opened sideways after bending for easy removal of the material - Cone bending device - Rear and lower roll adjustment up and down manually via handwheel - Portable control panel - Complies with CE standards Options: - Motorized rear roll - Digital display to indicate rear roll position - Body cover - Hardened rolls EURO 336, -- We have many references!

Stanje: novo, Bending length: 2600 mm Sheet thickness: 7 mm Top roller diameter: 200 mm Technical data: - Back roller motorized - Cone bending device - Hardened and polished rollers - Entire body made of St 52 steel - Asymmetrical design for perfect bending Klodpfx Aled Ab Ngjmet - Top and bottom rollers driven by brake electric motors and planetary gearboxes within the transmission - Portable control panel - In compliance with CE standards Options: - Bottom roller driven by electric motor: EURO 2,200 - Digital display for rear roller position: EURO 1,010 - Extended rollers: EURO 966 - Profile rollers: EURO 1,190 We have numerous references!

Stanje: novo, Sheet thickness: 2.5 mm Bending length: 1550 mm Top roll diameter: 90 mm Technical data: - Cast iron frame - Manual or motorized (optional) bending - After bending, the top roll can be swung out to easily remove the material - Cone bending device - Movement of rear roll and lower roll manually adjustable up and down with handwheel - Portable control panel - In compliance with CE standards Options: - Motorized rear roll EURO 825,-- - Digital display for rear roll position EURO 1,010,-- - Body cover EURO 362,-- Klodod Ab Txepfx Almot - Hardened rolls EURO 650,-- We have numerous references!

Stanje: novo, Bending length: 1050 mm Sheet thickness: 3.3 mm Top roll diameter: 90 mm Technical specifications: Kledpjd Ab T Aofx Almst - Cast iron frame - Manual or motorized (optional) bending - After bending, the top roll can be opened to the side for easy removal of the material - Cone bending device - Movement of the rear and bottom rolls up and down manually via handwheel - Portable control panel - In compliance with CE standards Options: - Motorized rear roll - Digital display for indicating the position of the rear roll - Body cover EURO 274,-- - Hardened rolls EURO 480,-- - Variable rotation speed We have many references!

Stanje: novo, Bending length: 1250 mm Sheet thickness: 2 mm Kljdpfx Aled Ab T Esmst Upper roll diameter: 75 mm Technical data: - Cast iron body - Manual or motorized (optional) bending - After bending, the upper roll can be swung out to easily remove the material - Cone bending device - Movement of the rear roll and lower roll is manual via handwheel - Portable control panel - In compliance with CE standards Options: - Motorized rear roll - Digital display showing the position of the rear roll - Body cover EUR 314,-- - Hardened rolls EUR 465,-- - Variable rotation speed We have numerous references!

Stanje: novo, Sheet thickness: 2 Bending length: 1250 Top roll diameter: 75 Technical specifications: - Cast iron frame - Manual or motorized (optional) bending - After bending, the top roll can be opened to the side for easy removal of the material - Cone bending device - Movement of the rear roll and lower roll manually up and down via handwheel - Portable control panel - In compliance with CE standards Options: - Rear roll with motor EURO 825,-- - Digital display for rear roll position EURO 1,010,-- Kjdpfxjd Ab T He Almelt - Machine body cover EURO 314,-- - Hardened rolls EURO 465,-- We have numerous references!

Stanje: novo, Sheet thickness: 1.8 mm Bending length: 1050 mm Top roll diameter: 70 mm Sheet length: 1050 mm Details: - Cast iron frame - Motorized bending - Conical bending device - Manual adjustment of the rear and lower roll via handwheel - Mobile control panel - Compliance with CE standards Options: - Rear roll with motor: €825 Ksdpjd Ab T Sofx Almolt - Digital display for rear roll position: €1,010 - Frame cover: €274 - Hardened rolls: €392

Stanje: novo, Bending length: 3100 mm Sheet thickness: 6 mm Top roll diameter: 200 mm Technical specifications: - Rear roll motorized drive - Cone bending device - Hardened and polished rolls - Complete frame made of St 52 steel - Asymmetric design for perfect bending - Top and bottom rolls driven by brake electric motors and planetary gearboxes - Portable control panel - Compliant with CE standards Options: - Bottom roll driven by electric motor: EUR 2,200 - Digital display for rear roll position: EUR 1,010 - Extended rolls: EUR 966 - Profile rolls: EUR 1,190 Klodpfxed Ab Nfo Almet We have numerous references!