Bürkle Bsu 2500/800 nakup rabljenega (11.943)

Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2000, vrsta vhodnega toka: trifazni, stiskalna sila: 500 t, skupna dolžina: 4.000 mm, skupna širina: 4.000 mm, skupna višina: 3.200 mm, skupna masa: 43.000 kg, temperatura: 160 °C, kontinuirana stiskalnica s trakom iz mylarja dimenzije: 2700 x 3200 mm Guedpfeycxvuex Afweb

Stanje: pripravljen za uporabo (rabljen), Leto izdelave: 2017, obratovalne ure: 11.206 h, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, številka stroja/vozila: 20170708, potovalna razdalja osi X: 670 mm, pomik osi Y: 830 mm, pomik po osi Z: 600 mm, model krmilnika: Heidenhain 530, največja hitrost vretena: 18.000 obr/min, A maintenance was performed on the machine in April 2025, during which the rotary union was replaced at a cost of €8,600! TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel X-axis: 670 mm Travel Y-axis: 830 mm Travel Z-axis: 600 mm Swivel range A-/C-axis: approx. -100 to +120° and -120 to +120° Gusdpfxjy I Tvne Afwob C-axis rotation range: 360° Table diameter: 800 mm T-slots (number x width): 9 x 90 mm Maximum table load: 1,200 kg Kessler spindle: 18,000 rpm Max. tool length: 300 mm Max. tool diameter: 75 mm Max. tool diameter (adjacent stations empty): 125 mm Max. tool weight: 7 kg Tool change time: 3 s Rapid traverse X/Y/Z: 60 m/min Max. axis speed A: 50 rpm Max. axis speed C: 100 rpm Acceleration X/Y/Z: 7 m/s² Repeatability: 0.004 mm Positioning accuracy: 0.008 mm Rotary drive system: integrated direct drives Tool holder: HSK 63 Tool stations: 96 MACHINE DETAILS Control system: Heidenhain 530 Dimensions & Weight Weight: 19,000 kg Layout with accessories (L x W x H): 4,150 x 5,000 x 3,500 mm Tank capacity: max. 330 l Total coolant capacity: max. 425 l Operating hours Control on-time: 20,248 h Machine on-time: 19,424 h Program runtime: 11,331 h Spindle hours: 11,206 h EQUIPMENT Spindle cooler Kessler rotary arm, swing diameter 800 mm, full use of zero-point clamping system Note: The probe is not included in the offer. The holders, however, are part of the offer.

Stanje: rabljeno, Adept Robot System, industrijski robot, rabljeni stroj Dimenzije: Dolžina: 1250 mm Gujdpfxjwm Hnbe Afwob Širina: 520 mm Višina: 1860 mm Proizvajalec: Adept Robot System Model: Cobra 800 Tip: SCARA (4-osni) Maksimalni doseg: 800 mm Nazivna nosilnost: 2 kg Maksimalna nosilnost: 5,5 kg Ponovljivost (XY): ±0,017 mm Ponovljivost (Z): ±0,003 mm Ponovljivost (Theta): ±0,019° Zaščitni razred: IP65 Leto izdelave: 2003 (po oznaki) Posebnosti: Izjemna natančnost in hitrost Integriran servo ojačevalnik in krmilnik (prostorsko varčna konstrukcija) Možnost sledenja traku in integracije vizijskega sistema Enostavna kalibracija z absolutnim dajalnikom Možnost IP65 zaščite (prahotesna in vodoodporna izvedba) Povzetek: Adept Cobra 800 je visokozmogljiv, kompakten SCARA robot, zasnovan za hitro, natančno in prilagodljivo avtomatizacijo industrijskih procesov. Z maksimalnim dosegom 800 mm, nosilnostjo 2–5,5 kg in odlično ponovljivostjo predstavlja idealno rešitev za sestavljanje in manipulacijo materiala.

Stanje: pripravljen za uporabo (rabljen), Odvijalec, odvijalnik pločevine, rabljeni stroj Proizvajalec: GSW Schwabe AG Tip: LHM 150/800 Skupne dimenzije: 860 x 740 x 1430 mm Gujdpfx Afex Emdgswsb Nosilnost: 150 kg Širina pločevine: 150 mm

Stanje: rabljeno, Odvijalec, odvijalnik pločevine, rabljeni stroj Proizvajalec: GSW Schwabe AG Tip: LHM 150/800 Skupne dimenzije: 860 x 740 x 1430 mm Gusdpfxoyc Spbj Afweb Nosilnost: 150 kg Širina pločevine: 150 mm

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2016, proizvajalec krmilnikov: Siemens, model krmilnika: 840 Dsl, Description: General: Year of manufacture: 2016 Control system: Siemens 840 Dsl Travel X/Y/Z: 3 mm Table size: 3,500 x 820 mm Maximum table load: 2,500 kg Spindle speed: 18,000 rpm Tool holder: SK 40 Spindle: Technology: Motor spindle Speed: 18,000 rpm Maximum power: approx. 35 kW Maximum torque: approx. 100 Nm Tool holder: SK 40 NC Swivel Head: Technology: Swivel head with milling spindle B-axis: +/- 110° NC Rotary Table: Technology: Add-on rotary table A/C-axis: 360° Guodpfx Afjy R Iw Ejwob Tailstock: For shaft machining (A-axis configuration) Tool Magazine: Technology: Traveling chain magazine Number of stations: 48 pcs. Tool changer: Double gripper Max. tool diameter: 80 (130) mm Max. tool length: 350 mm Equipment / Accessories: Chip disposal: Chip conveyor Coolant supply: ICS system with filter, 70 bar Pendulum machining: Partition wall Shaft machining: A-axis + tailstock Workpiece measurement: Renishaw RMP 60 Tool measurement: Breakage monitoring Setup mode: Electronic handwheel Technology package: 5-axis milling

Stanje: dober (rabljeno),

Stanje: novo, Leto izdelave: 2024, Condition new Year of manufacture 2024 Stock number 7314 Delivery time prompt, subject to prior sale Country of origin Turkey Price 14,800 € Leasing rate 284.16 € In stock 1 Coil weight 2,500 kg Max. coil outside diameter 1,300 mm Min. coil inside diameter 450 mm Max. coil inside diameter 550 mm Max. coil width 600 mm Min. coil width (for version with pneumatic pressure arm) 80 mm Length 1,600 mm Width 1,550 mm Height 2,000 mm Weight 580 kg Motorized drive Mechanically adjustable coil mandrel with 4 jaws Speed control for unwinding speed as well as acceleration and deceleration time Photoelectric SICK proximity sensor for loop control Pneumatic pressure arm ALTERNATIVES (prices on request): Gjdpewirrkjfx Afwsub Version without pneumatic pressure arm Version without drive, with brake, with or without pneumatic pressure arm

Stanje: novo, Stanje novo Dobavni rok pribl. 12 tednov od naročila Država izvora Turčija Cena 12.100 € Leasing obrok 232,32 € Teža koluta 2500 kg Maks. zunanji premer koluta 1300 mm Min. notranji premer koluta 450 mm Maks. notranji premer koluta 550 mm Maks. širina koluta 600 mm Min. širina koluta 50 mm Min. širina koluta pri različici s pnevmatsko pritisno roko 80 mm Gjdpfx Aowirqajfwoub Motoriziran pogon Mehansko nastavljiv jedro koluta s 4 čeljustmi Regulacija hitrosti odvijanja ter časa pospeševanja in zaviranja Fotoelektrični bližinski senzor SICK za kontrolo viseče zanke ALTERNATIVE (CENE NA POVPRAŠEVANJE): Različica s pnevmatsko pritisno roko Različica brez pogona, z zavoro, z ali brez pnevmatske pritisne roke

Stanje: novo, Stanje novo Dobavni rok cca. 12 tednov od naročila Država porekla Turčija Cena 11.800 € Leasing obrok 226,56 € Teža koluta 2500 kg Največji zunanji premer koluta 1300 mm Najmanjši notranji premer koluta 450 - 550 mm Največja širina koluta 400 mm Najmanjša širina koluta 50 mm Najmanjša širina koluta pri različici s pnevmatsko pritrdilno roko 80 mm Motoriziran pogon Mehansko nastavljivo jedro z 4 čeljustmi Regulacija hitrosti odvitja ter časov pospeševanja in upočasnjevanja Fotoelektrični približevalni senzor SICK za kontrolo visečega materiala ALTERNATIVE (CENE NA POVPRAŠEVANJE): Različica s pnevmatsko pritrdilno roko Različica brez pogona, z zavoro, z ali brez pnevmatske pritrdilne roke Gsdswirp Nopfx Afwjub

Stanje: zelo dobro (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2001, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, skupna dolžina: 37.000 mm, skupna širina: 4.000 mm, skupna višina: 3.700 mm, delovna višina: 520 mm, vhodna napetost: 400 V, vrsta vhodnega toka: trifazni, Lisec IG Line 4000 x 2500 mm (2001/2007), left/right, for triple-glazed units, models according to Lisec model catalogue, and 4-sided stepped units: - RTVN-32/25WE, washing machine infeed (3.2 m length), year of manufacture 2007 (!) - RTL-25VN, washing machine with 6 brushes for Low-E glass, including 1 hot water tank, 1 sand filter, and 1 blower, year of manufacture 2007 (!) - RTVN-16/25ST, washing machine outfeed (1.6 m length), year of manufacture 2007 (!) - RSVN-38/25A, frame setting station, year of manufacture 2001 - RTVN-15/25MZ, measuring station for gas filling press, year of manufacture 2001 - RTVN-11/25ST, infeed conveyor for gas filling press (or extension for measuring zone), year of manufacture 2001 - FPS-36/25U2T, gas filling press for argon, year of manufacture 2001 - RTVN-16/25ST, gas filling press outfeed 1, year of manufacture 2001 - RTVN-16/25ST, gas filling press outfeed 2, year of manufacture 2001 - APKV-25/2, 2-lane cork applicator, year of manufacture 2001 - RTVN-15/25VFE, infeed with glass and frame measuring device and barcode reader for shape closure, year of manufacture 2001 - VFL-1DS/25, sealing robot, including options for triple units (2 sealing cycles), 4-sided stepped units (bottom 0–50 mm, front, back and top 0–140 mm) as well as special shapes according to Lisec special shape catalogue, Beckhoff PC, Lenze servo motors and controllers, year of manufacture 2001 - DOS-1PUD + SID, material dosing for PU (base 2 x 200 litres, liquid hardener 200 litres) and SI (base 200 litres, hardener 20 litres), year of manufacture 2001 Godpfx Afoy Rfgqewjub All machines were fully operational until dismantling and are now available ex stock in Hofkirchen/Austria as well as ex stock in Oroshaza/Hungary.

Leto izdelave: 2010, stanje: pripravljen za uporabo (rabljen), - RABLJEN - CNC DVOJNI VERTIKALNI STRUŽNIK NAJVEČJI PREMER VRTENJA: 3000 mm NAJVEČJA VIŠINA STRUŽENJA: 800 mm NAJVEČJI PREMER STRUŽENJA: 2800 mm VRETENO: 1-160 vrt/min; 71-114 kW; 68500 Nm; 2500 mm POMIK OSI X: -150+1780 mm POMIK OSI Z: 900 mm HITRI POMIKI X-Z: 8 - 10 m/min MAGAZIN ORODIJ: KOŠARSKI TIP; TIPA CAPTO C5; 24 POZICIJ KRMLJENJE: SIEMENS 840D Gujdpfxjyyrh Ho Afwsb NAJVEČJA DOVOLJENA OBREMENITEV: 15000 kg TEŽA: 54000 kg DODATKI: TRANSPORTER ODPADKOV; MERILEC ORODIJ; AVTOMATSKA VRATA; SISTEM HLAJENJA GLAVE; PRENOSNI ROČNI KRMILNIK

Leto izdelave: 2025, stanje: novo, Edger Max. feed-through width: 800 mm Max. feed-through height: 90 mm Motor: 15 kW Infinitely variable feed speed: 0–80 m/min Circular saw blade spacing freely adjustable Up to 8 circular saw blades possible Laser position markers Godpfxey Rq Rnj Afwsub Perfect for pallet production The price is for the machine only! Roller tables are optional extras and can be ordered to custom size and length as required.

Stanje: zelo dobro (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2013, Oprema: dokumentacija / priročnik, Wittmann W828 Euromap 67 X= 1105 mm Y= 1200 mm Godpfx Afoy Nkf Aoweub Z= 2500 mm Vakuum: 2 Število osi: 3 Doseg: 2500 mm Nosilnost: 5 kg

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2003, Tlak 250 t Hod 20 - 190 mm Število hodov 25 - 140 /min Izsev 460 mm Prehod med stenami ohišja 590 mm Vgradna višina 690 mm Površina mize 1500 x 880 mm Prehodna odprtina v mizi 950 x 250 mm Višina mize nad tlemi 900 mm Površina batnice 870 x 725 mm Nastavitev batnice 120 mm Pogonska moč 30,0 kW Teža 32,0 t Prostorske zahteve pribl. 2,34 x 2,38 x 3,99 m x m x m Guedpfxovuun To Afweb s tekoče nastavljivim pogonom, svetlobno pregrado (znamka Sick), hidravlično sklopko/ zavorno kombinacijo, hidravličnim protivzorčnim varovanjem v batnici, samodejno nastavitvijo hoda, motorizirano nastavitvijo batnice, pnevmatskim izravnalnikom teže batnice, fiksno mizo, pnevmatsko vlečno blazino v mizi (20 t), motorizirano centralno mazanje, upravljalna konzola z dvoročnim upravljanjem Svetla širina med veznimi vijaki 940 mm Stranski prehod 900 mm

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1987, Širina materiala 800 mm Debelina materiala 0,4 - 2,5 mm Število ravnalnih valjev 8 Premer ravnalnih valjev 53 mm Število vlekalnih valjev 2 Premer vlekalnih valjev 160 mm Debelina materiala pri širini materiala 800 mm (inox) 0,6 mm Debelina materiala pri širini materiala 800 mm (jeklo) 1,0 mm Debelina materiala pri širini materiala 150 mm (inox) 2,5 mm Presek materiala 975 mm² Hitrost - 35 m/min Gusdpfx Aey Ruttjfweb Pogonska moč 2,1 kW Teža 7,0 t Prostorska zahteva (ŠxGxV) 2,0 x 2,0 x 2,3 m Ravnalni stroj RM 8-53/160-800 z brezstopenjsko nastavljivim pogonom, pogon ravnalnih valjev, podporni valji, hidravlično dvigljiva ravnalna glava, motorizirana nastavitev valjev, hidravlični uvajalni klin, bočno vodenje traku pri vhodu.

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1990, Tlak 50 t Razdalja med stebri 800 mm Hod 4 - 60 mm Število hodov 30 - 300 hod/min Vgradna višina (hod + nastavitev bata zgoraj) 400 mm Godpfxsvut Huj Afweub Stranski prehod med stebri 350 mm Delovna miza 780 x 640 mm Prebojna odprtina v mizi 690 x 140 mm Višina mize nad tlemi 1150 mm Površina bata 800 x 460 mm Pogonska moč 26,0 kW Teža stroja cca 9,00 t Prostorske zahteve cca 2,4 x 1,7 x 2,9 m Nastavitev bata 80 mm S kontinuiranoregulatiranim pogonom, avtomatsko nastavitvijo hoda, elektronskim valjčnim podajalnikom (PBK, WV 65-DSM 300P, l. 2007)

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2006, številka stroja/vozila: IntNr231573, A vendre, tour CNC MORI SEIKI NL 2500/1250 d'occasion, année de fabrication 2006, équipé d'une commande MORI SEIKI MSX 850III / MAPPS III ainsi que d'un magasin d'alimentation IRCO SIMAG pour alimentation automatique des barres. Caractéristiques techniques Commande : MORI SEIKI MSX 850III / MAPPS III Origine : Japon Conception : Tour CNC à banc incliné Distance entre pointes : 1.250 mm Longueur de tournage maxi : 1.298 mm Diamètre de tournage maxi : 356 mm Diamètre de tournage standard : 275 mm Diamètre de passage au-dessus du banc : 923 mm Axe X : 260 mm Axe Z : 1.345 mm Vitesse de broche : jusqu'à 4.000 tr/min Alésage de broche : env. 80 mm Tourelle : 12 positions Nombre de tourelles : 1 Convoyeur à copeaux Outils entraînés Axe C Axe Y Poids de la machine : 7.600 kg Dimensions de la machine : 5.000 x 2.300 x 2.400 mm La machine peut être vue en fonctionnement sur rendez-vous. Sous réserve de modifications, d'erreurs dans les données techniques et les indications, ainsi que de vente intermédiaire. Gusdey N Tqbepfx Afwob

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2018, Serial no. 221920, control unit: Engel CC300, clamping force 800 t, 2 injection units, rotary table, min./max. mould height 500–1,100 mm, platen distance 2,100 mm, clear opening horizontal/vertical 1,170/1,000 mm, 8 cascades, 48 hot runner zones, core pulls hydraulic 2 (DS) / 4 (AS), screw diameter 80/60 mm, shot weight 1,800/250 g, operating hours 28,236, machine weight 30,000 kg, mould temperature control unit Oni Rhytemper FlexControl 30, 3x 8-way block modules 125 °C, 6-way block module 125 °C, visualization unit, take-out handling Engel Viper 20 (X, Y, Z, B axes), nozzle spacing 300 mm, year 2018, serial no. 221937, conveyor with enclosure, belt conveyor Engel BGR FB100 KMAT, year 2018, 2102958, L/W approx. 3,500 x 800 mm, external temperature control unit and material dosing not included in the scope of delivery. Gedpfoy I R Insx Afweub

Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2015, obratovalne ure: 26.000 h, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, potovalna razdalja osi X: 800 mm, pomik osi Y: 520 mm, pomik po osi Z: 550 mm, model krmilnika: Heidenhain iTNC 530, Oprema: transportni trak za ostružke, Posmill C 800 Kompakt Leto izdelave: 2015 Zelo dobro ohranjen stroj! Stroj je bil uporabljen izključno za obdelavo plastike (suho)! + 4. / 5. os Lehmann Edition 2 / 500 Kombiflex 4. os vrtljiva za 360° 5. os nagibna za 90° + Posoda za hladilno sredstvo in notranje hlajenje orodja (neuporabljeno) TEHNIČNI PODATKI Pomik v osi X: 800 mm Pomik v osi Y: 520 mm Pomik v osi Z: 550 mm Tip vretena: SK40 Vrtljaji vretena: 10.000 min⁻¹ Menjalnik orodij: 24-kratni Dimenzije mize: 950 x 520 mm Krmiljenje: Heidenhain iTNC 530 Dimenzije in teža Dimenzije (D x Š x V): pribl. 2,60 x 2,60 x 2,70 m Teža: 6.800 kg Delovne ure Stroj – vklopne ure: pribl. 26.000 ur Vreteno: pribl. 16.000 ur Opomba: Vpenjalec na Lehmann delilni glavi ni vključen v ponudbo. Gusdpfxsy Ni U Ns Afweb

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2005, številka stroja/vozila: IntNr231574, Machine Specifications Control system: MORI SEIKI MSX-850 Design: Slant-bed turning center Configuration: SY with Y-axis Turret: 12-station with driven tools Working Area Max. turning diameter: 356 mm Standard turning diameter: 275 mm Max. turning length: 705 mm Travel Ranges Gjdpfx Ajy N Tpkjfwoub X-axis travel: 260 mm Y-axis travel: ±50 mm / total approx. 100 mm Z-axis travel: approx. 795 mm Rapid traverse (X/Y/Z): 30 m/min Counter Spindle LNS Quick Load Servo 2 bar feeder Max. bar length: approx. 1,500–1,600 mm / 63" The machine can be inspected under power by appointment. Specifications and information are subject to change and error. Subject to prior sale.

Stanje: skoraj kot novo (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2019, Arburg 1200 T 2000-800 (vertikalna mašina sa obrtim stolom 1200 mm) Jedinica za zatvaranje 2000T Prečnik stola: 1200 mm Ugao rotacije: 180 stepeni Sila zatvaranja: 200 tona Maks. sila otvaranja kN/mm: 115/500 Jedinica za ubrizgavanje Prečnik puža: 45 mm Zapremina šuta: 318 cm3 Godpfx Afewugczoweub Težina šuta: 291 g Pritisak ubrizgavanja: 2470 bar 1. Model: T-model 2. Tip mašine: 1200 T 2000 - 800 3. Jedinica za plastifikaciju: Termoplastični cilindar 45 mm, visokootporan na habanje 4. Puž: Ojačana spojka puža za klinastu geometriju spajanja 5. Upravljanje: SELOGICA 'direct' sistem upravljanja 6. Tehnološki nivo: Nivo 2, servo-upravljan sa 2 regulacione pumpe 7. Obrtni sto: Napredno ergonomsko specijalno izvođenje, dvofazno, 180° napred/nazad naizmenično 8. Dizne: Otvorena dizna 45 mm sa vrhom dizne 9. In-Mould igličaste dizne: Električne &

Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2017, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, Description: The machine is in good technical condition; testing is possible by prior agreement. Equipped with Siemens Shopturn system, including bar feeder, machine is fully equipped. BASIC PARAMETERS Working area - Max. turning diameter: approx. 410–500 mm - Max. length: 800 mm - Distance between spindles: approx. 1020 mm - Swing over bed: approx. 700 mm - Actual use: ideal for shafts, flanges, housings up to approx. 800 mm Axis Travels - X-axis: approx. 480 mm - Y-axis: approx. 100 mm - Z-axis: approx. 800–845 mm - B-axis: approx. 110° (5-axis machining) - C-axis: 360° (indexing + interpolation) This makes it a fully-fledged turn-mill center (not a conventional lathe). Spindles Gjdpfx Asy Rgafsfwsub - Main spindle speed: approx. 5000 rpm - Power: approx. 25–34 kW - Bar capacity: approx. 76–87 mm - Sub spindle speed: approx. 6000 rpm Milling spindle (main difference compared to a conventional lathe) - Speed: up to 12,000–20,000 rpm - Power: approx. 19–22 kW - Taper: HSK-A63 or Capto C6 - Capabilities: milling, drilling, tapping, 5-axis simultaneous operations Tool system - Magazine: 24–48 tools - Live tools: yes (fully integrated) Control system - Siemens 840D sl + CELOS (most common) Weight and Dimensions - Weight: approx. 10,000 kg - Dimensions: approx. 6.5 × 2.7 × 2.0 m

Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2005, Rabljeni stroj za rezanje tekstila Lectra Vector 2500 V3 Fashion, letnik 2005 – 7100 delovnih ur – okno reza z uporabno širino 170 cm – debelina reza 2,5 cm – nov računalnik z nameščenim Windows 10, komplet za 4000 ur opravljen pred 1 letom – v dobrem stanju. Takoj na voljo. Guodst Ipk Sopfx Afweb

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 1983, Nominal force: 2,500 t Stroke: 600 mm Cycle time: 13 - 18 s Upright distance: 1,720 mm Distance table/ram, at max. stroke up, adjustment up: 2,600 mm Table surface: 1,720 x 1,800 mm Permissible continuous load: 4,000 t Impact force: 5,000 t Ram surface: 2,100 x 1,320 mm Table ejector: 40 t Table ejector stroke: 250 mm Godpfxsyx Inae Afwoub Table ejector surface: 900 x 820 mm Ram ejector: 6 t Ram ejector stroke: 40 mm Spindle diameter: 425 mm Drive power: 900.0 kW Weight: 335.0 t Space requirement (WxDxH): 3.4 x 4.6 x 9.7 m Height above floor level: 8.3 m Fully automatic forging line / spindle wedge press with automation for production of flange shafts For hot forming only Features: reversible squirrel-cage asynchronous motor, pneumatic brake, plate ejector in table (40 t / 250 mm), ejector in ram (6 t / 40 mm), lifting device for feeding-forward, marking, tool change, feed-in device, tilting device, loading and unloading arm, turntable, oil circulation lubrication, centralized grease lubrication Cycle time approx. 13 - 18 s Dismantled and stored – as is, WITHOUT commissioning