Cartobol Linija Za Pakiranje Tekočin nakup rabljenega (84.784)

Stanje: delavnici obnovljeno (rabljeno), številka stroja/vozila: 2586k,

Stanje: delavnici obnovljeno (rabljeno), Stock No. 2452 1 used, partially overhauled and function-tested pelletizing line Throughput up to 300 kg/h depending on material, consisting of: Kreyenborg SW 100 stuffing unit, 7.5 kW drive BKG single-screw extruder Ø 100 mm – 35 L/D, 132 kW drive – AC frequency controlled Screw speed up to 143 rpm Nledpfx Ajh Eyd Regxoa Screw flight depth 14 mm Installed heating power approx. 35 kW 1x atmospheric degassing with melt backflow device ("Stuffer")* Screen changer, double piston Kreyenborg K-SWE 160 RS backflush with screen area 244 cm² BKG underwater pelletizer AH 300, complete with: Start-up valve incl. hydraulic station Granulator with 4 kW drive Water pump 2.2 kW By-pass system, water tank with 9 kW installed heating and heat exchanger BKG pellet centrifuge TWE 300 with 3 kW drive Control cabinet OPTIONAL at extra charge > * Vacuum pump > Pellet classifier sieve, conveying system, big bag station > Process water cooling unit / temperature control Further pelletizing lines available ex works Wuppertal, please request our current machinery stock list or visit us.

Stanje: delavnici obnovljeno (rabljeno), Stock No. 2452 1 used, partially overhauled and function-tested pelletizing line Throughput up to 300 kg/h depending on material, consisting of: Kreyenborg SW 100 stuffing unit, 7.5 kW drive BKG single-screw extruder Ø 100 mm – 35 L/D, 132 kW drive – AC frequency controlled Screw speed up to 143 rpm Screw flight depth 14 mm Installed heating power approx. 35 kW 1x atmospheric degassing with melt backflow device ("Stuffer")* Screen changer, double piston Kreyenborg K-SWE 160 RS backflush with screen area 244 cm² BKG underwater pelletizer AH 300, complete with: Start-up valve incl. hydraulic station Granulator with 4 kW drive Water pump 2.2 kW By-pass system, water tank with 9 kW installed heating and heat exchanger BKG pellet centrifuge TWE 300 with 3 kW drive Control cabinet Nlodji Dtb Uepfx Agxsa OPTIONAL at extra charge > * Vacuum pump > Pellet classifier sieve, conveying system, big bag station > Process water cooling unit / temperature control Further pelletizing lines available ex works Wuppertal, please request our current machinery stock list or visit us.

Leto izdelave: 1996, stanje: delavnici obnovljeno (rabljeno), No. 2590k 1 used compounding and pelletizing line, throughput up to 1,200 kg/h, depending on material, consisting of: - THEYSOHN twin-screw extruder, type TSK 90 - Screws: 2x Ø 90 mm – 36 L/D, co-rotating Nlsdpfx Aegbffvsgxsa - Segmented screws and barrels, water/media cooled - Screw speed up to 300 rpm - Extruder drive: 255 kW DC - 1x side feeder-extruder TSD 75, twin-screw with 3 kW drive - 3x degassing ports - 1x screen changer, No. 1, type K-HS-Y, 176 mm screen, with hydraulics - 1x melt pump with 22 kW drive - 1x screen changer, type K-SWE 180 RS backflush, with hydraulics - 1x strand die head with 32 x Ø3.5 mm holes - 1x cooling trough 620 x 5000 mm - 1x strand pelletizer SG 300, 11 kW drive - Touchscreen control ResoTec / control cabinet Inspection / demonstration possible at short notice by arrangement. Further compounding lines and accessories can be found in our online machine inventory list on our website.

Stanje: delavnici obnovljeno (rabljeno), Stock No. 2452 1 used, partially overhauled, and function-tested pelletizing line Throughput up to 500 kg/h, depending on material, consisting of: - Kreyenborg SW 100 stuffing unit, 7.5 kW drive - BKG single-screw extruder, Ø 100 mm – 35 L/D, Nodpfx Agod Sg I Ijxela 132 kW drive – AC frequency controlled - Screw speed up to 143 rpm - Screw channel depth 14 mm - Installed heating capacity approx. 35 kW - 1x atmospheric degassing zone (vacuum pump available at additional cost) - Kreyenborg double-piston screen changer K-SWE 160 RS with backflush and screen area of 244 cm² - BKG underwater pelletizing system AH 300, complete with: * Start-up valve including hydraulic station * Pelletizer with 4 kW drive * Water pump 2.2 kW * By-pass system, water tank with 9 kW heater installed and heat exchanger - BKG granulate centrifuge TWE 300 with 3 kW drive - Granulate classification screen - Control cabinet with updated Siemens touch panel OPTIONAL at additional cost: > Vacuum pump > Material conveyor, Big-Bag station > Process water cooling/temperature control unit Additional pelletizing plants available ex works Wuppertal. Ask for our current machinery stock list or visit us.

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2018, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, število ravnalnih valjev: 6, širina transportnega traku: 1.300 mm, najv. debelina jeklene pločevine: 1 mm, širina tuljave: 1.250 mm, dolžina rezanja (maks.): 6.400 mm, premer ravnalnega valja: 70 mm, potrebna širina: 3.500 mm, zahteva za prostor dolžina: 18.275 mm, potrebna višina: 4.000 mm, Enoosebno upravljanje, hiter dostop do številnih različnih pločevin, avtomatska menjava pločevine, standardne pločevine ostajajo nameščene na napravi; zgornje pločevine so manj pogoste vrste; varna rešitev pomične vzpenjalne pomoči za nakladanje zgornjih odvijalnih enot; programabilna razrezovalna naprava z 8 pari nožev v stacionarni izvedbi; rezalni noži so izmenično razporejeni za rezanje z majhnim zvijanjem; krožni noži AL p s premerom 100 mm za čim manjši rez; 7,2 m dolg trak za izvoz trakov Tehniška risba naprave v pdf je predstavljena zrcalno! Nsdpfx Agoxwc E Isxola

Leto izdelave: 2008, stanje: dober (rabljeno), For sale: a complete production and packaging line for fruit and vegetable juice. The line consists of the following machines: fruit and vegetable pulp milling and production line (MEGA feed hopper, MEGA 2012 rotary screen, MEGA 2008 slat elevator, MEGA 2008 brush washer, MEGA 2008 roller inspection conveyor, 2017 screw conveyor, pulp centrifugal pump, pulp tank, FLOTTWEG 2008 belt press, FLOTTWEG 2008 wash water tank). Njdpfxepqxvxe Agxela We also have a juice packaging line for sale: juice cooling system – STM 2018, packaging line (triblock – STM 2014, buffer tank STM 2014, bottle orientator STM 2013, capping machine STM 2013, HITACHI 2016 printer, 2018 labelling machine).

Stanje: rabljeno, completely stainless steel suitable for thermal oil heating 12.7 kW roasting length 3,000 mm track width 600 mm overhead conveyor variable speed control oil pump oil level control suitable for fire protection filter waste transport cover mechanical lifting device Nledpfxey Ex Nne Agxsa total length approx. 5,650 mm total width approx. 1,800 mm total height approx. 3,450 mm

Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Kompletna linia do produkcji ravioli. Nsdpfx Agjub Diujxsla

Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2006,

Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2014, Maschine wird ohne Förderband und Waage geliefert. Nedpfjwt Tuhsx Agxola

Stanje: dober (rabljeno), Stroj za pasterizacijo zelenjave. Nlsdorwn Hbspfx Agxoa

Leto izdelave: 2013, stanje: pripravljen za uporabo (rabljen), Na raspolaganju je kompletna linija za punjenje flaša Groninger. 1) Postavljač flaša Groninger ZSB 2000, godina proizvodnje: 1995. 2) Mašina za punjenje Groninger DFV 1000Q, godina proizvodnje: 2013, broj punila: 10, dodatna funkcija: poprečni translacioni sistem, kapacitet punjenja: oko 9000/h, raspon doziranja: 5ml-1000ml, raspon visine posuda: 30mm-250mm, dimenzije transportnih čaša X/Y: 108mm/80mm, radni sati: oko 24100h. 3) Sorter zatvarača Groninger ZSK 1500, godina proizvodnje: 1995, brzina obrtanja sortirajućeg diska: 25 o/min. 4) Mašina za zatvaranje Groninger KVK 106, godina proizvodnje: 1995, maksimalna brzina zatvaranja: 9000/min, maksimalni prečnik posude: 100mm, maksimalna visina posude: 200mm, dimenzije mašine X/Y/Z: oko 3400mm/1450mm/2550mm, težina: oko 1500kg. 5) Izlazna traka Groninger, godina proizvodnje: 1995. Dokumentacija je dostupna. Moguća je inspekcija na licu mesta. Nljdpfsy Dupzex Agxoa

Stanje: pripravljen za uporabo (rabljen), Širina cevčaste folije: 60-215mm, debljina folije: 0,06-0,12mm, maksimalni prečnik role cevčaste folije: 300mm, prečnik jezgra folije: 76mm, dužina kese: 60-600mm, kapacitet pri dužini kese 100mm i debljini folije 0,06mm: 15 kom/min, dimenzije otiska: 300x213mm, maksimalna dužina otiska: 300mm, opciono dužina otiska: do 600mm, dimenzije stola: 880x460/600mm, visina stola: 850mm, priključna snaga: 2,3kW, osigurač: 10A, radni pritisak: 6bar, relativna vlažnost vazduha: 25%-85%, emisija buke: 75dB(A), dužina: 1200mm, širina: 1200mm, visina: 1550mm, težina: 250kg, sa dokumentacijom. Pregled na licu mesta je moguć. Nljdpfx Aoy Dup Usgxja

Stanje: skoraj kot novo (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2022, Višina dovoda: 900 mm Širina dovoda: 300 – 800 mm Neželezne kovine: 0,6 – 0,8 mm ali 0,8 – 1,0 mm (navesti pred naročilom) Neželezne kovine: 1,0 – 1,2 mm (samo pri fasadnih profilih) Jeklo (320 N/mm²): 0,55 – 0,70 mm Nerjavno jeklo: maks. 0,5 mm 3.830 mm x 2.045 mm x 1.275 mm 1.770 kg Nsdpfx Aoxwxdgogxela

Stanje: zelo dobro (rabljeno), 4-sided SIZING AND EDGE BANDING LINE + THROUGHFEED BORING MACHINE Consisting of the following machines: A) "IMA" loading system (bridge design) with double pick-up station, equipped with a central motorized roller conveyor. Includes 2 external, floor-mounted, motorized roller conveyors for supplying panel stacks to the loader. B) 1st double-sided sizing and edge banding machine "IMA" model Combima/N/II/230/A/R3 (mm 1300) C) Panel turner (from longitudinal to transverse orientation) "IMA" D) 2nd double-sided sizing and edge banding machine "IMA" model Combima/II/740/B/R3+ (mm 3300) with KFA 30 (contour trimming unit for fine trimming) E) Throughfeed boring machine "IMA" model I-Magic (with 2 horizontal and 4 lower vertical boring supports) F) Motorized roller conveyor "IMA" G) Panel turner (from transverse to longitudinal orientation) "IMA" Nsdsyyb Suspfx Agxola H) "IMA" stacking system (bridge design) with double stacking station, equipped with a central motorized roller conveyor. Includes 2 external, floor-mounted, motorized roller conveyors for transporting panel stacks away from the unloader.

Stanje: zelo dobro (rabljeno), CATALOG NUMBER 7816 TECHNICAL DATA DDCA - Maximum plank length: 85 mm - Minimum plank width: 180 mm - Maximum plank width: 845 mm - Minimum plank thickness: 10 mm - Maximum plank thickness: 45 mm - Spindle diameter: 30 mm - Maximum saw blade diameter: 250 mm - 5 spindles: - Left side: 1) Vertical upper spindle 2.2 kW 2) Horizontal lower spindle 2.2 kW - Right side: 1) Vertical lower spindle 2.2 kW 2) Vertical upper spindle 2.2 kW 3) Horizontal lower spindle 2.2 kW - Spindles adjustable up/down, left/right - 2 material pressure rollers - Infinitely variable feed speed: 0–10 m/min - Spindle diameter (5x): 100 mm Nlodpfxsyyy Ege Agxja - Dimensions (L/W/H): 1870/2230/1320 mm DDGA - Maximum plank width: 130 mm - Maximum plank thickness: 100 mm - Spindle configuration: 1) Bottom spindle 5.5 kW 2) Right spindle 5.5 kW 3) Left spindle 5.5 kW 4) Top spindle 5.5 kW - Spindles adjustable up/down - 6-knife heads mounted on upper and lower spindles - Spindle diameter: 40 mm - Moulding cutters mounted on right and left spindles, max diameter: 50 mm - Spindle diameter: 30 mm - 2 feed speeds: 4.9 kW - Central chain lubrication via oil pump - Spindle diameter (4x): 125 mm - Dimensions (L/W/H): 3100/1300/1700 mm ADVANTAGES - Made in Poland - 5 spindles - Not repainted - Very good condition - Used production line - High quality, low price Net price: 52,900 PLN Net price: 12,600 EUR Net price calculated at 4.2 PLN/EUR (In case of major exchange rate fluctuations, the price may change)

Stanje: zelo dobro (rabljeno), Catalogue number: 7817 TECHNICAL DATA DDCA – Double-End Tenoner - Minimum slat width: 180mm - Maximum slat width: 850mm - Minimum slat height: 10mm - Maximum slat height: 45mm - Spindle diameter: 30mm - Maximum blade diameter: 250mm - 4 blades included 5 spindles: Left side: - 1) Vertical upper 2.2kW - 2) Horizontal lower 2.2kW Right side: - 1) Vertical lower 2.2kW - 2) Vertical upper 2.2kW Njdpfx Ajyz Nr Segxjla - 3) Horizontal lower 2.2kW - Spindles adjustable up/down, left/right - Material hold-down: 2 pcs - Stepless feed speed adjustment: 0–10m/min - Central lubrication via oil pump - Pump motor: 2.2kW - Extraction port diameter: 5x100mm - Dimensions (LxWxH): 1900x2230x1530mm DDGA – Four-Sided Planer - Maximum slat width: 130mm - Maximum slat height: 10–60mm - Minimum workpiece length: 200mm Spindle arrangement: - 1) Bottom 5.5kW - 2) Right 5.5kW - 3) Left 5.5kW - 4) Top 5.5kW - Spindles adjustable up/down - Top & bottom spindle diameter: 40mm - Right & left spindle diameter: 30mm - 4 feed speeds: 13/20/26/40 m/min - Central chain lubrication via oil pump - Extraction port diameter: 4x120mm - Dimensions (LxWxH): 3200x1370x1830mm DBCA – Tenoner Feeder - Maximum feed speed: 40m/min - Maximum slat width: 150mm - Motor: 0.55kW - Overall dimensions (LxWxH): 2320x600x1150mm DBGA – Strip Feeder - Strip length: 200–600mm - Strip width: 30–120mm - Strip thickness: 10–40mm - Stepless feed speed adjustment: 10–40m/min - Motor: 0.75kW - Overall dimensions (LxWxH): 1500x500x980mm - Total weight: approx. 4900kg – Manufactured in Poland – DTR documentation included – 5 spindles – Unpainted – Very good condition – Used machine Net price: 63,900 PLN Net price: 15,200 EUR based on 4.2 EUR exchange rate (Prices may change with higher rate fluctuations) * MAR-MASZ guarantees the quality of your purchase but is not an authorized representative of the manufacturer. All trademarks and trade names are used solely for informational purposes to identify the goods. We only resell products that have already been placed on the market by the manufacturer. We have no business connections with the manufacturer.

Stanje: pripravljen za uporabo (rabljen), Leto izdelave: 1999, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, skupna širina: 6.265 mm, skupna dolžina: 7.420 mm, skupna višina: 3.900 mm, Pakirni stiskalnik Henschel PS 3-30 / 30 B Nlodpfxjyx Axge Agxja Letnik: 1999 (leta 2016 moderniziran in obnovljen pri podjetju ATM) Takoj pripravljen za uporabo (vsa potrebna popravila in servisi so bili izvedeni z naše strani) Glavne dimenzije celotnega stroja: Dolžina: 7420 mm Širina: 6265 mm Višina: 3900 mm Skupna teža: cca 38 t Polnilna odprtina: 1210/2150 x 1900/2340 mm Tehnični podatki: Motor: 1 x 90 kW Pritisk stiskanja: - 1. stiskanje: 1000 kN - 2. stiskanje: 1570 kN - 3. stiskanje: 2000 kN - Pritisk vrat paketa: 200 kN Velikost paketa: 300 x 300 mm

Stanje: rabljeno, številka stroja/vozila: 007857, Pozicija 1: Horizontalno skladišče IMA + MEINERT-COMBIMA SYSTEM/I/R75/1170/F/R3 Pozicija 2: Krožna žaga za plošče z avtomatskim skladiščem IMA + MEINERT-COMBIMA SYSTEM/I/R75/1170/F/R3 Pozicija 3: Enostranski robni lepilni stroj IMA + MEINERT-COMBIMA SYSTEM/I/R75/1170/F/R3 Pozicija 4: Nakladalec IMA + MEINERT-COMBIMA SYSTEM/I/R75/1170/F/R3 Pozicija 5: Razkladalec IMA + MEINERT-COMBIMA SYSTEM/I/R75/1170/F/R3 Pozicija 6: Obdelovalni center z robnim lepljenjem IMA + MEINERT-COMBIMA SYSTEM/I/R75/1170/F/R3 Pozicija 7: Obdelovalni center z robnim lepljenjem IMA + MEINERT-COMBIMA SYSTEM/I/R75/1170/F/R3 Pozicija 8: Stroji za rezanje kartona IMA + MEINERT-COMBIMA SYSTEM/I/R75/1170/F/R3 Nodpfx Ajwuuf Dogxjla Pozicija 9: Stroji za povezovanje IMA + MEINERT-COMBIMA SYSTEM/I/R75/1170/F/R3

Stanje: rabljeno, številka stroja/vozila: 007357, Pozicija 1: Nakladalec BIESSE - RBO-STREAM SB2 9.5 Pozicija 2: Dvostranski robni lepilni stroj BIESSE - RBO-STREAM SB2 9.5 Pozicija 3: Obratnik plošč BIESSE - RBO-STREAM SB2 9.5 Pozicija 4: Dvostranski robni lepilni stroj BIESSE - RBO-STREAM SB2 9.5 Njdpfxswuz Rte Agxjla Pozicija 5: Obratnik plošč BIESSE - RBO-STREAM SB2 9.5 Pozicija 6: Razkladalec BIESSE - RBO-STREAM SB2 9.5

Stanje: zelo dobro (rabljeno), Leto izdelave: 2013, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, Linija za proizvodnjo palet proizvajalca DREW-BET (KAROLEX) Upravljanje: 3 osebe Učinkovitost do ~ 200 kosov/uro Letnik izdelave 2013 – stanje zelo dobro Možnost uporabe neformatiranih desk po dolžini, kar bistveno pospeši proizvodnjo, v liniji sta vgrajeni dve obrezovalni žagi (vzdolžna in prečna). Linija vključuje: - Prebojni zabijalnik - Vzdolžni rezkar-obrezovalnik - Obrezovalnik vogalov - Prenosna miza - Prečni obrezovalnik - Obratnik - Stapler - Skladišče Njdoy D Uchopfx Agxola - Verižni transporter za odpadke pod celotno linijo Celotna linija je popolnoma funkcionalna, priključena na elektriko. Zelo hitro razstavljanje in prevoz (vse skupaj na 2 tovornjaka).

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2021, Funkcionalnost: popolnoma funkcionalen, skupna masa: 500 kg, The machine was purchased following a company liquidation. Flowpack Machine ITALDIBIPACK Dibiflow 500 – Year of Manufacture 2021 – Excellent Condition For sale is a high-quality flow pack packaging machine from the manufacturer ITALDIBIPACK, model Dibiflow 500, year 2021. The machine is in excellent, well-maintained condition and is ideally suited for efficient packaging of a wide variety of products in tubular bags. Technical Data Manufacturer: ITALDIBIPACK S.p.A. Model: Dibiflow 500 Year of manufacture: 2021 Connection: 400V – 3Ph + PE + N – 50/60 Hz Power: 4.3 kW Weight: approx. 500 kg Features & Equipment Nlsdpfx Agoxw S Ixjxsa - Robust stainless steel construction - High-quality sensors for product and film detection - Adjustable guide rails for different product widths - Clean, modern control and drive technology - Ideal for food, non-food, industrial products, and more - CE marking - Perfectly suited for continuous packaging processes Condition The machine is immediately ready for operation and shows only minimal signs of use. The guide systems, rollers, sensors, and all mechanical parts are in very good condition (see photos). Price Negotiable – 15,000 EUR + 4,000 EUR for printer

Stanje: rabljeno, Leto izdelave: 2017, Pregled Ta avtomatski stroj za ovijalno pakiranje kartonov je bil leta 2018 izdelan pri nemškem podjetju KRONES. Model VARIOPAC PRO W-7 je namenjen pakiranju PET steklenic v kartonske škatle. Stroj je še vedno nameščen, priključen na električno omrežje in trenutno v proizvodnji. Na voljo bo od sredine maja 2026 in si ga je možno po dogovoru ogledati med obratovanjem. Tehnični podatki Zmogljivost: 67 kartonov/min (x6) Formati: 1000 ml – 3×2 – enotirno 500 ml – 6×4 – enotirno Uporaba: ovijalno pakiranje kartonov (wrap-around) za PET steklenice Konfiguracija: ovijalni stroj za pakiranje Nsdpfx Aey A Nd Dsgxsla

Stanje: rabljeno, obratovalne ure: 35.000 h, številka stroja/vozila: LC581, Used Complete CSD Can Filling Line – 14,000 Cans/Hour – Overview This used, complete can filling line for carbonated soft drinks (CSD) is designed for the production and industrial packaging of carbonated beverages, achieving up to 14,000 cans per hour in the 250 ml format. The heart of the line is an Ortmann Herbst isobaric can filler with 45 valves, paired with a Ferrum 706 can seamer with 6 heads (can end size 200). The scope includes depalletizing, can rinsing, filling and seaming, tunnel pasteurization, inline inspection, coding, secondary packaging, palletizing, and end-of-line handling, providing a turnkey used filling line solution. Technical Specifications & Performance Data Core Monoblock: Filler-Seamer Filler: Ortmann Herbst, isobaric, 45 valves (Year of manufacture: 1980) Seamer: Ferrum 706, 6 heads (Year of manufacture: 1982) Product type: carbonated soft drinks (CSD) Rated output: 14,000 cans/hour at 250 ml Can end: Type 200 (Industry size 200) Monoblock configuration: integrated filler-seamer block to minimize dissolved oxygen (DO) pickup Formats & Throughput Primary can format: 250 ml Line speed: up to 14,000 CPH (depending on format and product) Included Process Equipment Kaeser compressor system with booster and two compressed air tanks (Year of manufacture 2010, commissioning 2011) CIP system, three tanks (Year of manufacture 2011) Syrup room with cooling system (Year of manufacture 2011) Nagema mixer (Year of manufacture 1992) Five finished beverage tanks, each 10,000 liters (100 hl), steel with food-grade lining Beverage filter (Year of manufacture 2011) Frezart can depalletizer (Year of manufacture 2009, commissioning 2011) Two can washers, adapted to 250 ml (Year of manufacture 2011) Hermis tunnel pasteurizer (Year of manufacture 2015) Stratec fill level inspection for cans (Year of manufacture 2000) Victor can marker / coder (Year of manufacture 2020) Kisters packaging machine (Year of manufacture 1993) Keber palletizer (Year of manufacture 1997) Sita stretch wrapper (Year of manufacture 2011) Complete conveyor system connecting all machines + two can accumulation turntables (Year of manufacture 2011) Thermo-shrink labeling line for plain cans (Year of manufacture 2015) Advanced Automation & Control Systems Inline quality control: Stratec fill level inspection for continuous monitoring and rejection of out-of-specification containers Product coding: Victor industrial printer for date/batch coding CIP capability: three-tank CIP system supports hygienic cleaning cycles for fillers and product pathways Integrated conveying and accumulation technology: conveyors with two turntables ensure even flow and buffer management for maximum uptime Detailed electrical and control documentation available upon request. Integration Options into the Production Line Upstream Section Depalletizing of empty cans (Frezart) and transfer to the can washer Nsdpfeyhbpzsx Agxjla Dual can washers, adapted to the 250 ml format...